HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-11-05November 5, 1984
Regular Meeting
The PLANNING BOARD held a regular meeting on Monday evening,
November 5, 1984 at 7:30 p.m. in the Town Office Meeting Room with
the following members present and voting: Paul A. Hedstrom,
Chairman, who arrived late; Michael P. Roberts, Vice Chairman;
John A. James, Jr., Clerk; John J. Burke: and Erich W. Nitzsche.
Town Planner Karen H. Nelson was present and Highway Surveyor
William A. Cyr arrived late.
CONTINURD PUBLIC HEARINGS
Sandra L~ne Realty Trust - Special Permits - Watershed District -
Lots 30B, 32A, and 33A
A1 Shaboo, project engineer, was present and submitted revised
plans. He also submitted a locus.
He stated that he has not been able to spend any time with the
owner except for a brief meeting on Saturday. He asked that the
public hearings be continued.
He further stated that these lots were originally approved and
that the town's zoning ordinances changed.
Also, he stated that there are no common driveways proposed. Glen
Road is a private way and it went under litigation and they have
the right to access it. The houses will be served by sewer and
water. The plan on which all of these are based on shows a sewer
easement. It goes to Sutton Hill.
Member Nitzsche requested information on water and sewer and asked
to have it shown on the plan.
Mr. Levine, an abutter, asked about the lots on Glen Road. He
stated there are restrictions as to what can be placed on the
land. He was subject to a number of controls concerning the pond
when he constructed his house. He asked how close the houses will
be to the pond.
Mr. Shaboo responded that these questions will be addressed by the
Conservation Commission. The setbacks will vary but they should
be around 70 feet. The driveway will be 35 feet away. The work
done so far was done by a previous owner. Erosion haybales are
there.
Mr. Shaboo added that he will submit the information requested by
Mr. Nitzsche.
He added that there is an area shown on the town's plans and it
drifts in and out of deeds. There is a question as to whether or
not it exists. The area is all landscaped and treed.
Member Nitzsche said he wants it resolved and wants true lot lines
on the plan.
Member James suggested putting a covenant on it.
Benjamin Osgood stated it does not exist in the deeds. Sutton
Hill Corporation did the original subdivision. The deed research
did not show a clear title. There is an easement next to Segal's
house and the Assessor's picked it up and put it on all their
plans.
Mr. Shaboo stated that it was never legally defined.
Mrs. Armitage, an abutter, presented a plan from the Registry of
Deeds. She also read a statement with the following main points:
Any wetland, whether or not it is outstanding, has an affect
on the body of water of which it is a part. Any change in the
natural paths of the lake will affect the lake.
Her interest in Duck, Island and Long Ponds is not new. The
ponds are in the Watershed District and enter the lake at the
Hatch.
She would not be here if Sandra Lane Realty Trust followed the
Watershed District regulations.
The 100 foot protected area belongs to the people of North
Andover. No one has the right to barter with this land.
She asked that the Special Permits be denied for the following
reasons:
1. public utility ~
2. Duck Pond and its recreational attractions
3. conservation
4. maintaining the integrity of the filter system of the
Hatch (The Audobon Society recommends a 500 foot buffer)
5. for 26 of the 29 years she has lived in North Andover
she has used the lake. She must now buy spring water.
She asked the Board to protect the lake. Mr. Philbin can
build the houses without going near the ponds. Why should he
be able to build them closer.
She asked when the Planning Board is going to stop the
builders from getting these variances and Special Permits.
- Why bother having the laws in the first place. The Planning
Board and Conservation Commission are not doing thier jobs.
Member James asked Mr. Shaboo if the houses could be located away
from the tributary.
Mr. Shaboo responded that the main request for the Special Permits
is to slide the houses near the tributary so that the land near
Segal will not have to be disrupted. Aesthetically, it is better.
Member Nitzsche added that he wants a copy of the Order of
Conditions from the Conservation Commission and he wants the
houses moved away £rom the pond.
MOTION: by Mr. Burke to continue the public hearings until the
next Planning Board meeting and allow the petitioner to
get together with Mr. Nitzsche and present another set
of plans.
SECOND: by Mr. James
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries
Note: Mr. Cyr arrived here.
PLANS NOT REQUIRING APPROVAL
Carter - Bradford Street
Town Planner Karen Nelson stated that the zoning is not on the
plan and questioned whether or not the plan would have to go to
the Boxford Planning Board. Member Nitz$che said it would.
MOTION: by Mr. Burke that the plan of land located in North
Andover and Boxford, Mass. prepared for Eunice Carter
and Helen Carter Mohnkern, dated 10/31/84, be approved
under Subdivision Control Law Not Required with the
condition that the plan be forwarded to the Boxford
Planning Board for approval and that the zoning for both
towns be shown on the plan.
SECOND: by Mr. Nitzsche
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries
Koroskys - Rea Street
This plan was submitted and withdrawn recently.
Engineer John Callahan submitted a revised plan showing the
improvements proposed for Rea Street. He offered to walk the site
with the Board members.
Highway Surveyor William Cyr said that as a point of information,
it is not a public way nor is it serviced as a public way. It is
no more than a driveway.
Note: Chairman Hedstrom arrived here.
Mr. Callahan drafted a letter requesting that the plan again be
withdrawn without prejudice.
MOTION: by Mr. Burke to allow the plan of land to be withdrawn
without prejudice.
SECOND: by Mr. James
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries
Fart - Patton Lane ~
MOTION: by Mr. Burke that the plan of land prepared for George
and Wanda Farr dated 10/25/84 be approved under Subdivi-
sion Control Law Not Required.
SECOND: by Mr. Nitzsche
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries.
Maillett - Carlton Lane
MOTION: by Mr. Burke that the plan of land prepared for Alvin
Maillett dated 10/25/84 be approved under Subdivision
Control Law Not Required.
SECOND: by Mr. James
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries
Enright - Church/Garden Streets
The Board of Appeals approved a variance to subdivide the
property.
MOTION: by Mr. Burke that the plan of land drawn for John Enright
dated and revised 10/22/84 be approved under Subdivision
Control Law Not Required subject to the condition that
the Board of Appeals signs the plan.
SECOND: by Mr. James
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries
Anderson, Inc. - Carlton Lan~
MOTION: by Mr. Burke that the plan of land drawn for P. D.
Anderson, Inc. dated 10/19/84 be approved under
Subdivision Control Law Not Required.
SECOND: by Mr. Nitzsche
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries.
OTHER BUSINESS
"The Pines" Petition from Appleton Street residents
Mr. Dave Saba, 183 Appleton Street, read a letter regarding a new
road for a road extension from Red Oak Farm.
Letters from the Fire Chief and Police Chief were read and placed
on file.
Chairman Hedstrom told Mr. Saba and his neighbors that without
exception, we are having public input. The public misunderstands
a Planning Board function. The Planning Board cannot enforce
their will against the will of the Police Chief, Fire Chief, etc.
They must follow the advice of the experts.
Mr. Saba asked if other alternatives were submitted would they be
considered. He stated that "The Pines" has not yet been built
even though it has been approved. He asked if a reconsideration
could occur.
Chairman Hedstrom said "yes, but it must be from specific input
from a town official".
Susan Lebel, 141 Appleton Street, added that she attended the
meetings when "Bear Hill" was proposed. The neighbors were told
that there would be no access to Appleton Street from Bear Hill
Road. She asked what has' happended in the meantime. It was
stated at that time that Appleton Street was unsafe.
Member Nitzsche responded that when the Bear Hill Subdivision came
in, it did not have access to Appleton Street. It came as the
result of the Pines Subdivision.
Mrs. Lebel asked why, since it was considered unsafe for Bear
Hill.
Highway Surveyor Cyr said they are talking about an abandoned
street. What that means is that it was abandoned as a town way
but the people have the same rights as anybody for building. It
poses a problem. The town cannot deny a building permit but the
roads should be upgraded. Whether or not the Planning Board
rescinded their decision as a subdivision, it would still be
inevitable that Appleton Street land may be sold.
Mr. Robert Hay, Appleton Street, asked about the safety problem.
The street is very narrow. Somebody will be killed.
Mr. Cyr added that it is very dangerous. The public safety
department is the enforcing agency. It could be widened. There
is no way to stop the development of Appleton Street.
Town Planner Karen Nelson added that no construction has taken
place in the Pines Subdivision. Maybe the town could request that
the construction vehicles could use Bear Hill during construction.
Mr. Saba said that the subdivision is already approved and they
cannot stop it. However, there might be alternatives to accessing
the subdivision. Maybe the road can go through from the other
side. As it is now, it will never be safe for trucks.
Mr. Cyr added that there 1/2 dozen parcels with access to Dale
Street, So. Bradford Street, Purgatory Lane, and Bear Hill Road
connected to Land Vest property, etc. There will be a goodly
circulation of traffic. When it is all developed, there will be
circulation and no one area will take the brunt.
Marry Larson of League of Women Voters - Charter Chang~
Ms. Larson Stated that the League of Women Voters with the support
of the Selectmen is organizing a campaign to change the charter at
the next election in March. She explained the procedure. She
asked for the support of the Planning Board and submitted a
petition.
MOTION: by Mr. Roberts to support the investigation.
SECOND: by Mr. James
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries
Watts Regulator - Acces~
Town Planner Karen Nelson said she asked for imput from Town
Counsel and recommendations from the Fire Chief, Police Chief and
the Merrimack Valley Planning Commission.
Letters from the State Department of Public Works,
Town Counsel, Police Chief and Merrimack Valley
Commission were read and placed on file.
Fire Chief,
Planning
Ms. Nelson told those present that there will be a meeting on
Wednesday, November 7, 1984 at 1:00 p.m. in the Highway Surveyor's
Office for interested parties.
Mr. Nick DeNitto, Marion Drive, asked for a clarification of Town
Counsel's letter.
Ms. Nelson responded that Town Counsel was referring to a Form A
Plan.
Chairman Hedstrom and Vice Chairman Roberts told the residents
that they do not have authority in this matter.
Mr. DeNitto added that they have been meeting with the owner. If
he does not act in good faith, other than legal action, what town
official can they look to.
Chairman Hedstrom told them to go to the Police Chief.
Dick Valle, Evergreen Drive, added that there was no mention of
the grade being changed on Chestnut Street.
Highway Surveyor Cyr said they will try to reduce it and most
likely the town would pay for it and the builder will have to give
up land or grant easements.
Mr. Ianazzi suggested an island with lights similar to what Mass.
Electric has.
Frank Greslick, Marion Drive, reminded the Board about the letter
from Mr. Rex of the School Department. He believes a curb cut on
Route 114 is in the interest of the State.
Mr. Cyr added that it is a driveway entry permit that was designed
to control the driveway widths, drainage flows, etc. They can
control a reasonable width, grade, shoulder area, proximity to
hydrants, etc. He recommended that the school bus stop to moved.
Wintergreen Realty Trust - Preliminary Plan Discussion
Mr. Philip Christiansen, project engineer, stated that they can
comply with the Highway Surveyor's recommendations. There will be
two entrances off Foster Street approximately 800 feet apart. The
water from the project will connect to Foster and Winter Streets.
There are no sewers so the lots will be on septic systems. The
drainage is just at the low points. There will not be a need for
much drainage in the streets. There is an abutting property with
a right-of-way through the parcel. They will accommodate it.
A letter from Peter Breen was read and placed on file.
Mr. Christiansen added that there is a large stream on the site.
They will do a hydrological study. They might change the plan
after doing the wetlands. There will be improvements to the road
during construction.
MOTION: by Mr. James to take the plan under advisement
SECOND: by Mr. Roberts
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries
Note: The Planning Board needs an extension to render a decision.
North Andover Business Park - Bond Amounts
Letters from the Board of Public Works and the Highway Surveyor
were read and placed on file.
MOTION: by Mr. James to establish the bond amounts at $333,760.00.
SECOND: by Mr. Nitzsche
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries
Ingalls Crossing III - Preliminary Plan Discussion
Postponed until November 26, 1984
The Board requested that the engineer stake out the road.
Great Pond Estates - discussion with engineer
Tom Neve asked to discuss the order of conditions, specifically,
items 12 (2, 3); 13; and 14. He has met with the Conservation
Commission and will file a Notice of Intent. He is having a
problem recording this order of conditions, security it, and then
requesting bond releases and then doing the same with the Con-
servation Commission's order of conditions. He asked the Planning
Board to amend their order of conditions and pass the ones under
the jurisdiction of the Conservation Commission.
Member Nitzsche said that if the Con. Com. is more stringent than
the Planning Board, then maybe the Planning Board will modify.
Ingalls Crossin II - completion date and status of pond
Ben Osgood reported that they will hottop tomorrow.
Bob Abdel, Paul Powers and Steven Dufresne asked about the lawns.
Highway Surveyor Cyr said they will all be restored and seeded.
Placed on agenda for 11/26/84 for review.
SITE PLAN REVIEW - Inter Design, Inc.
This is a parcel in the North Andover Business Park.
Jim Clark, for Inter Design, Inc. stated that it is an office
building. The back will be a warehouse. There is sheet drainage
with rif-raf. There will be temporary haybales.
Mr. William Dolan, Fire Chief, added that it is very close to
Route 125. The Fire Department will have to go all the way in
through the Willows. The situation is getting ridiculous.
Also, the plans do not contain information on what is going inside
the building.
Vice Chairman Roberts suggested giving the Town Planner a chance
to review the plans.
MOTION: by Mr. Roberts to take the Site Plan of Inter Design, Inc.
under advisement with a decision to be rendered at the
next meeting.
SECOND: by Mr. James
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries
Marble Ridge - Set public hearing date
MOTION: by Mr. Roberts to set the public hearing date for 11/26/84
SECOND: by Mr. James
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries
Cobble Lane - Set public hearing date
MOTION: by Mr. Roberts to set the public hearing date for 11/26/84
SECOND: by Mr. James
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries
Bear Hill Development Trust - bond release
MOTION: by Mr. Roberts to release monies in accordance with the
Highway Surveyor's and Board of Public Works' recommen-
dations.
SECOND: by Mr. James
VOTE : In favor - 3 (Burke, Roberts, James)
Opposed - 1 (Nitzsche)
Motion carries
Patton Lane - bond release
MOTION: by Mr. Roberts to release $31,000.00 per the Highway
Surveyor's recommendation
SECOND: by Mr. James
VOTE : Unanimous - motion carries
The meeting adjourned at 11:00 p.m.