HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Board Meeting Minutes 11.09.10
PLANNING BOARD
Meeting Minutes
Tuesday, November 9, 2010
Senior Center 120R Main Street
7:00 PM
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Present:
J. Simons, T. Seibert, R. Rowen, C. LaVolpicelo
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Absent
: M. Colantoni, R. Glover
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The meeting began at 7:05 PM.
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POSTPONEMENT
: Public Hearing: 1003 Osgood Street. Watershed Special Permit and Site Plan Review
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Special Permit for const. of a new 21,000 sq. ft. restaurant/office/retail building and relocation of a historic barn.
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DISCUSSION ITEMS
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195 Bridle Path
, R. Ercolini presented changes to a Watershed Special Permit approved plan .
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Judy: Requested revisions to the Watershed Special Permit that was previously granted. There is a new wall,
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expansion of the stairs and bluestone walk, and expansion of the patio area. There is a net increase of 500 sq. ft.
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impervious surface. They are also adding some storm water mitigation. Two infiltration cisterns that are in the back
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of the house serving the back patio and the addition and two cisterns close to the stairs. These are in addition to the
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two that were already approved and installed.
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Steve Stapinski, Merrimack Engineering, The cisterns collect the runoff from the patio. The crushed stone trench
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with a PVC collection pipe next to the wall to be installed connects into the cisterns which are put into the ground.
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The two on the backside that are under the driveway will collect the water runoff from the stairs going up to the
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bluestone patio. The water is stored in the cistern then ex-filtrates into the ground and recharges the groundwater.
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The applicant has submitted pre and post development calculations and submitted them to Conservation as well.
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Judy: I have talked to Conservation about the scope of change. Usually I write up something for the file that states
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exactly what the changes were so that they can be part of the as-built.
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MOTION:
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A motion was made by R. Rowen that the changes were slight enough so that they did not warrant a modification to
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the Special Permit. The changes were heard and a document will be written into the record as part of the as-builts
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but a formal modification to the Special Permit was not warranted. The motion was seconded by T. Seibert. The
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vote was unanimous.
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MetroPCS
, Bill McQuade, presented the plan for an extension of the existing Wireless Monopole at the Steven’s
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Estate, along with the installation of a new Wireless Facility.
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Judy: The existing Monopole has 3 carriers. MetroPCS would like to co-locate on that Monopole and I assume it
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will be a joint application with TowerCo who owns the Monopole. This is a pre-application discussion. Due to the
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height they will have to go to the ZBA for a variance.
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Matt Bowles, NE Wireless Solutions representing MetroPCS: This is a 100 ft flagpole type antenna housing
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currently being utilized by three carriers (T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint). The first option we looked at was to place an
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antenna at about 65 ft. but the RF analysis showed that we couldn’t get the coverage we would need. Next option
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was to do a small extension to house our antennas. TowerCo did a structural analysis to see if it was feasible and the
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analysis came back indicating it was a viable option to pursue. This would entail putting a 12 ft. canister on top of
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the tower to extend it. The antennas would be mounted inside the canister which matches what is currently there.
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Everything would be within the existing fenced ground area. We have a letter from the Town Mgr allowing us to
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proceed with the zoning process as well as a letter from TowerCo.
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Judy: Verified that the diameter will be the same and Bowles confirmed that he believes it will.
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R. Rowen: When the tower was originally built were they any restrictions saying there could only be three carriers?
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Judy: Yes, the current tower is restricted to three by the tower company themselves. They determined it is only a
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three carrier tower and an extension would be needed. We would ask for a full structural report as part of this
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application.
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R. Rowen: So there is no zoning regulation prohibiting a fourth carrier?
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Judy: No, but there is a variance required for height.
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J. Simons: What is the height limit?
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Judy: I believe 10 ft above the tree line.
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T. Seibert: we should verify that all other documentation for MetroPCS, for past permits, is up to date since they are
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here for this application.
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R. Rowen: Would the 12 ft extension be only for MetroPCS or would that add the capability for other carriers?
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M. Bowles: That section would only be for MetroPCS. Each section for each carrier is approximately12 feet.
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R. Rowen: I would like to find out how many 12 foot sections could possibly be added before it becomes
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structurally unsafe.
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J. Simon: You should be coming back with coverage statistics, gaps, ect.
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R. Rowen: You should also show why it wouldn’t meet coverage requirements if the antennas were installed below
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the existing three carriers.
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Judy: I told the applicant they can file concurrently with the Planning Board and ZBA.
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58 Country Club Circle
, Applicant Donald Stanley, proposed build out of room above garage that was previously
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permitted under Watershed Special Permit.
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Judy: I am removing this from the agenda. The applicant has previously come before the Planning Board about two
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years ago. The applicant received a Watershed Special Permit for a detached garage and one of the conditions was
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that they do not build out the living space above. They came back to the Planning Board and the Board said they
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could build out that area but it would require a Modification to the Special Permit. I have given the applicant that
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message. They would have to complete an application, legal notice and notify abutters.
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PUBLIC HEARING
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Proposed zoning changes for Fall Special Town Meeting 2010 regarding CDD-2 District
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Judy: The Applicant has submitted the warrant article as a citizen’s petition to be presented at Town Meeting. The
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specific verbiage is “to amend Section 16 Corridor Development District to add to ‘Uses Subject to Special Permit’,
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Banks with a Drive-Through Facility on a parcel or parcels collectively comprising at least five (5) acres or more of
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land within the CDD2 Zoning District”.
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John Smolak, Petitioner. Present with Ben Osgood, Project Engineer, Joe Pelich, Project Manager, and Al
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McGregor, Site Owner of the property that comprises part of the CDD-2 District. Summarized what is being
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proposed in the Warrant Article. Currently under the CDD-2 District provisions of the Zoning Bylaw banks are
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permitted ‘by right’ but we feel that (to market this facility to a bank) all banks these days are looking for drive-
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though facility as an essential component of a bank facility. Provided background and location of Mr. McGregor’s
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parcels. Mr. McGregor is in position to enter into an agreement with a bank to redevelop the site. Stated reasons
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specific to the 2006 rezoning of this portion of Rt. 144 to the Corridor Development District were fourfold; the
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Board had attempted to connect the abutting parcels to minimize curb cuts on the property, the District also would
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provide a buffer to nearby residential properties, to eliminate the potential for the Corridor from becoming over
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developed while at the same time trying to develop a cohesive architectural design for the entire corridor. There are
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many site constraints within the District; wetlands, flood plane, paper streets, most of the lots are very small and
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narrow. Unlike many of those parcels the McGregor property has a number of attractive features which distinguish
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it from the other parcels. First, it has close to 1.5 to 2 acres of upland, it is close to 7 acres in size and most of the
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developable portion of the site is clustered closer to the Rt. 114 side of the parcel, the site has been underutilized for
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a number of years and this presents and opportunity to take a parcel and redevelop it and try to set the architectural
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design standards for this area of Rt. 114, and by using a Special Permit process the Planning Board will maintain a
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specific amount of control over the ultimate design of the project.
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Ben Osgood, Jr., Project Engineer, presented distances to adjacent properties and a potential schematic for the
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development of a property. Site constraints were taken into consideration in coming up with the layout including
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wetlands. 2003 plans which B. Osgood stated were approved by the Conservation Commission were displayed.
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J. Simons: If we approved this and you go forward with this project you would come in with a full delineation for
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the process with Planning and Conservation Commission and that if you had to move the building because of
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wetlands would obviously do that?
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B. Osgood: Yes, these are schematic plans. This project wouldn’t work without a drive-through. This is just our
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vision of how the site should be developed. We haven’t done the whole design yet. There is a whole process we
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would have to go through including delineating the wetlands, dealing with Ma Highway, figuring out the utilities…..
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J. Simon: Is there enough upland on the site to not create undue complications with queuing before you reach the
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edge of what is developable?
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B. Osgood: Yes. Described a typical bank queue as having three cars during busy times. Again, this is a
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conceptual design.
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R. Rowen: If we are leaning towards supporting this I would like some help in creating some rational as to why we
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would allow a drive-through for a bank. Want to be able to have some rational why it would be appropriate here and
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not across the street. There would be two aspects, one you have the distance and two you have a smaller queue.
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Would like find out what the traffic studies would say for a fast food queue.
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J. Simon: There is some rational that we already know; this property goes deeper and is not as impeded by the
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wetlands to the extent it is across the street, the property is further away from any other residential, and (we would
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want to validate) it is a less intensive use.
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R. Rowen: Driving toward trying ensure we treat all applicants the same we would want to affirm; if you have this
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much land and you have this much queue distance and the anticipated queue length is such…..
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C. LaVolpicelo: I would like to point out that the applicant across the street did not come to us with plans of what
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his future ideas were. This applicant has given us enough supporting information to help us make an educated
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decision on whether or not we are going to back it.
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B. Osgood: Reviewed some potential architectural and landscaping designs.
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R. Rowen: Asked if the fence company would go away if the bank went forward and the answer was yes.
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T. Seibert: Is Woodlea Rd uphill from the wetland?
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B. Osgood: Yes, about 6-8 feet above the wetlands.
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J. Smolak: This evening I submitted a letter to the Board reaffirming our commitment and types of improvements
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that we are looking to implement on the site.
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Jennifer Hughes, Conservation Administrator for the Town of North Andover, Stated she does not have issues with
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the Zoning Bylaw change. Showed the Board what she termed a more accurate delineation of the wetlands. This
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delineation was done for an abutter at some point after the 2003 delineation that was shown earlier. This delineation
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extends the wetland along Saville Street (paper portion) as well as along Turnpike St.
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J. Simons: Something can be built on this property. There is a big enough footprint of development that something
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can be built there and you can say that with confidence.
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J. Hughes: Stated her concern is that you get a visual when you see this plan with a nice pictures of a bank and it is
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superimposed on the lot in the location that looks nice but under the town’s Wetlands Protection Bylaw that would
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not be a feasible location for this bank and hence those distances, the superimposed photo, and the plan showing it
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right up front on Rt. 114 are not very likely. When across the street went for their zoning change they came with
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basic plans. This petitioner is putting something very specific in front of the town at a Town Meeting. If you are the
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Conservation Commission who then has this project come in front of them later and you are denying it or saying it
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can’t be located there you have people wondering why didn’t someone bring this up ahead of time. That is why I
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am here and the Chairman of the Conservation Commission as well.
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T. Seibert: asked for clarification on where J. Hughes was stating the wetlands were and who determines if there is
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a wetland.
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J. Hughes: Described the process an applicant would go through in terms of having a delineation performed and
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then the review that would be done by the Conservation Commission.
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J. Smolak: This is something that will go through the formal delineation process down the road. Until this is
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complete you won’t know where the land lies.
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J. Simons: Agrees with J. Hughes that the exact, final shaped of the building and how it sits on the site is subject to
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some change but we do know that there is a big enough footprint for development of a building and accommodate a
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drive-up. That is really the scope of what we are here for tonight.
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J. Hughes: Restated her concern that the project is being presented in a specific location that an approved wetland
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delineation shows it this may not be a feasible location.
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R Rowen: Understood the concern and felt that people may vote in favor or not in favor of the re-zoning based on
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the pictures presented.
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J. Simons: Suggested possibly presenting alternative locations that would be considered if a formal wetland
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delineation indicates that wetlands prohibit the location currently indicated on the drawings.
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Steven Perlmutter, abutter on Saville Street: Questioned if the bank is the only development proposed for the
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parcel?
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J. Simons: all we are doing is discussing the proposed zoning change. We can’t speak for the applicant on use of
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the entire property. Everything they do will have to conform with zoning.
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S. Perlmutter: Are there plans for public viewing that show what area is actually buildable on the parcels?
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J. Simon asked B. Osgood to point out the various plans that have been presented to date.
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T. Seibert pointed out No-Build and No-Disturb zones based on the wetlands presented to try to indicate where
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likely development could happen and where it could not happen.
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J. Simons explained that the next steps are going before Town Meeting for approval of the Article for the zoning
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change. After that the applicant would have to go forward with an application. The same notification of abutters
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will happen.
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Lou Napoli, Chairman of Conservation Commission for the Town of North Andover: On record that he is favor of
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Al McGregor developing his property. Understands going through the full wetland and stormwater management
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design to potentially go before Town Meeting to be denied a drive-up window is an expense they shouldn’t have to
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incur, however; does not agree with bringing pictures/drawings to a meeting that say potentially the bank will be
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located here when in reality it may not be. Does not believe the pictures of the building should be shown in a
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location where potentially the building will not be allowed to be placed.
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J. Simon and R. Rowen: Suggested presenting types of design and buildings but not a specific location. These
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would be representative of the quality of design and the concept.
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MOTION:
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R. Rowen made a motion to recommend favorable action on the proposed amendment. T. Seibert seconded the
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motion. The vote was unanimous.
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Judy: Requested guidance from the Board in regards to a cell tower application currently before the Zoning Board
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of Appeals and coming to the Planning Board at the next meeting. The Zoning Board is in the process of
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determining which RF consultant they would like to hire. She would like them to use the Planning Department’s RF
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consultant, Mark Hutchins. The Zoning Board has not made a decision after several meetings. If they go with a
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different consultant Judy does not think we should force the applicant to use two separate consultants. The Board
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recommended we use the same consultant as long as they are fair and do not have an agenda.
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J. Simons: Discussed the seminar he attended that covered the changes to the Opening Meeting Law.
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Recommended that the material be distributed to the rest of the Board.
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MOTION:
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R. Rowen made a motion to accept the October 19, 2010 Planning Board Meeting minutes. The motion was
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seconded by T. Seibert. The vote was unanimous.
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MOTION
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T. Seibert made a motion to adjourn the meeting. R. Rowen seconded the motion. The vote was unanimous.
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The meeting adjourned at 8:20pm.
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Meeting Materials: 2007 02 06 58 Country Club Circle WSSP, Nov 9 2010 Agenda, November 17 2010 Special
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Town Meeting-Citizen Petition-Amend CDD2 District (2), Oct 19 2010 meeting minutes, Proposed zoning Change
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CDD-2 District, Revised Ercoline, Urbelis RE Wireless Communication Letter, Wetland delineation prepared for
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Londi.
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