HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Board Meeting Minutes 10.19.10
PLANNING BOARD
Meeting Minutes
Tuesday, October 19, 2010
Town Hall, 120 Main Street
Top floor conference room
7:00 PM
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Present at Meeting:
J. Simons, T. Seibert, M. Colantoni, R. Rowen, C. LaVolpicelo, R. Glover
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The meeting began at 7:02 PM.
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POSTPONEMENT
: Public Hearing: 1003 Osgood Street. Watershed Special Permit and Site Plan Review
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Special Permit for const. of a new 21,000 sq. ft. restaurant/office/retail building and relocation of a historic barn.
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Lot Release
: Peter Breen to request lot release for 99 Ogunquit Lane.
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Judy: This is for Rocky Brook Estates; Lot #5 has been sold.
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Travis Breen, (representing the applicant): The house is almost completely built.
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J. Simons: Explained that a house can not be constructed if the lot was not released from the covenant prior. A
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building permit should not have been issued.
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Judy: They are requesting the release so they can sell the lot and the home that is currently being constructed.
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J. Simons: Has the road been accepted? How much bond money do we have held?
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Judy: Does not think the road has been accepted and will have to look up the bond money.
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R. Rowen: Holding the lot in escrow is in lieu of a bond. A building permit could not have been issued, correctly.
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J. Simons: Until we sort this out we will have to wait on the lot release.
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Bond Release
: Red Gate Subdivision.
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Judy: All of the drainage work has been done. I have made several visits to the site along with Gene Willis, Town
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Engineer. The last item to be completed is an as-built to be done for the drainage and we did get one late last week.
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Gene is reviewing it and has a few minor questions. We have a surety bond in place for $102K, a $10K site opening
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bond, and a $20K erosion control bond. Gene is recommending that the surety bond be reduced to $56K. This
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would leave money in the account for maintenance of the water main, maintenance for storm drainage, pavement,
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street trees, detention area, street conveyance and final as-builts. This bond reduction would be contingent upon the
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developer putting on the final binder coat of pavement before the winter. The developer, Rick Dellaire, would also
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like to ask for the release of the $10K site opening bond.
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Gene Willis, Town Engineer: I, as well as the developer, would like very much to get the binder coat on before the
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winter. There are three outstanding concerns that I have in my response to the developer’s engineer but they all
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have to do with the drainage and storm water runoff, not the road. I recommend the reduction, but that the reduction
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is contingent upon the completion of the final binder coat.
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T. Seibert: asked for clarification on what the 10K Site Opening Bond was for.
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R. Rowen: explained the purpose of the bond and that the work associated with it is complete.
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Mr. Cyr, abutter:What does the bond have to do with them actually paving the road? It seems like a trade off to
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give the relief from the $10K surety bond so that they can pave the road.
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J. Simons: The $10K is not a surety bond. It is a cash bond for the initial opening and closing of the road and that
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work is complete.
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42 Mr. Cyr: Are you holding the 4 lot at this point or are they ready to build when it is sold?
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J. Simons: the 4 lot is still under the covenant. If the applicant asked us to release it we would confer with Mr.
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Willis to see if the bond amount held is sufficient to cover the value of the work remaining. If he said yes we would
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be compelled to release the lot.
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Mr. Cyr: When would that happen?
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J. Simons: We can’t speak for the developer.
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Mr. Cyr: This particular bond was set aside for the road and drainage issues?
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J. Simons: Yes, and we are just balancing the bond amount with the amount of work that is remaining.
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MOTION:
R. Rowen made a motion to accept the town engineer’s recommendation for a reduction in the surety
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bond for Red Gate subdivision down to $56K to be released after the road is brought to final top coat. The motion
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also recommends the release of the $10K cash site opening bond. The motion was seconded by T. Seibert. The vote
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was unanimous.
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PUBLIC MEETING
: 288 Sutton Street. Proposed five (5) lot Preliminary Subdivision, “Matthew’s Way”
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R. Rowen: Purpose of a public meeting is to provide an opportunity for the developer to solicit ideas of the
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Planning Board so that they can make changes early in the design process to avoid wasting a lot of money on a
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design that is not going to go anywhere. It gives a chance for the public to provide their input as well.
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Judy: The abutters were notified even though it is not technically required. L. Eggleston has done a review
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provided some of her concerns regarding stormwater management. There are some wetlands and the project will
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have to go before Conservation.
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J. Smolak, attorney for the applicant, as a follow-up to the Board’s last meeting on this matter the applicant is
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preceding to a 5-lot subdivision in lieu of a 4-lot proposal which would include a roadway improvement plan along
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Ellis St. The proposal is a 5-lot subdivision, including an 18’ wide paved roadway with access to the lots from
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Sutton St. There would be a paved ‘T’ at the end of the roadway to allow for turnarounds. The roadway
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improvements and maintenance are intended to remain private and not a public way.
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Greg Saab, project engineer, reviewed notes on the drainage system. Roof drain runoff along with other stormwater
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management items would be put on a definitive plan. The plan includes some proposed improvements to the
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drainage system on Ellis Street. These include a catch basin, drain manhole, another deep sump catch basin and
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drain manhole, and a tie into an existing 12” pipe.
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R. Rowen, are there variances required here from ZBA for the right of way width?
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Judy: No, that is Planning Board.
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J. Simons: There have to be waivers required from Subdivision Rules and Regulations. Has a sketch plan been
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done that indicates 5-lots that are conforming?
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Judy: Yes, they previously provided a plan showing the 5-lots met zoning for this area.
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T. Seibert: Where does the drainage discharge from the 12” pipe?
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G. Saab: To a 24” pipe on Sutton St. and it eventually goes to the river. We will show L. Eggleston that we will
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keep the flow the same.
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T. Seibert: Where is the 100’ buffer zone? There is a good portion of one of the lots in the buffer zone.
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J. Simons: Judy, what do we have from the Fire Dept.?
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Judy: Nothing in writing but they commented at an internal Technical Review Committee meeting that they did not
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have issues with the proposed road way width or the ‘T’ turnaround.
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Sharon Lewis, abutter, 272 Sutton Street: Is the placement of the dwellings on the lots and type of houses decided at
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this meeting?
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J. Simons: No. First they have to conform to the zoning setbacks and they have to build the lots in such a way that
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they don’t create a drainage problem. We can’t dictate as part of the subdivision process exactly what the houses are
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going to look like but we can provide some general direction.
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J. Smolak: I am not sure the developer has decided yet.
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S. Lewis: Will there be improvement to the surface of Ellis Street after the drainage improvements are done.
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G. Saab: It will remain a gravel road.
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S. Lewis: Will there be any impact to trees around my property?
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G. Saab: We will preserve the majority of the trees. We will have to bring a pipe through and some small trees
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might be affected.
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J. Simons: When we get to that point we typically have the Planner go out to the field and identify and mark the
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trees we want to preserve.
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S. Lewis: What is proposed for the land between our house and the new road?
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Judy: There would be some provisions for sight distance so that there is a safe line of sight exiting the street.
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G. Saab: There will be a slight swale to make sure there is no water that runs to the house. It will be a small, grass
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swale. You will be able to mow it.
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Guy Duffy, abutter, 3 Ellis Street: Likes the way it is laid out but wants to know what was said about it could
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change. He thinks it will help the current drainage.
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J. Simons: I said the design of the individual houses on the lot might change.
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Judy: It is up to the developer to show that they will not increase the drainage onto neighboring properties.
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J. Simons: Since this is not a Public Hearing we do not have to close it but would like a Decision drafted. It should
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state that it doesn’t necessarily mean we will approve the Definitive Plan if we choose to approve the Preliminary.
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DISCUSION ITEMS
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195 Bridle Path
: Applicant R. Ercolini was to present changes to an approved Watershed Special Permit.
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Applicant did not attend the meeting.
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1820 Turnpike Street
: Applicant, Gino Fodera, to present changes to allow for a drive-thru restaurant.
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Judy: This is a commercial building with office/ retail space that was issued a Special Permit-Site Plan Review in
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August 2007. The Zone is General Business. The drive through is to come off Berry Street, not Turnpike Street.
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There is also an additional patio being requested.
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G. Fodera, one of the owners of the building: There is about 190’ from entrance to the drive through location. We
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were approved for a patio on the back of the building. Want to keep the patio for the restaurant and to add an
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additional patio for a new tenant.
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Judy: The consideration for the Board is that should this be a modification of the Site-Plan Review Permit or waiver
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of Site Plan Review.
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J. Simons: You absolutely have to come back in as a modification.
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R. Rowen: You need to come back and demonstrate that you still have 360 degree access around the building. The
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plan does not show enough detail. You need to show how the parking and flow will be affected.
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C. LaVolpicelo: You are creating more impervious surface with the addition of the deck and with the new lane.
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This will have to be readdressed.
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J. Simons: This plan decreases the parking and the building is located directly across the street from a residential
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district. The consensus of the Board is that you will have to come back with an application for a modification to the
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Special Permit-Site Plan Review. You will have to hire a traffic engineer for this.
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Charlie Foster to present proposed zoning change
regarding two-family dwelling units in the R-4 District for
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Annual Town Meeting 2011.
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Judy: Prior to the May 2004 Town Meeting one or two dwelling were ‘as of right’ in a residential district. Town
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Meeting May 2004 a zoning change was made requiring a special permit for two-family dwellings. Mr. Foster
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would like to have it changed so that existing two-families are ‘as of right’ so that they don’t fall under non-
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conforming regulations and require special permit for alterations and increase in size.
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C. Foster: May 2004 the Planning Board brought an Article before the Town Meeting for a zoning amendment that
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resulted in all two-families in town becoming non-conforming rather than allowing the existing two-families to
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remain as they were. These two-families were removed from the permitted list of uses. Why eliminate two-family
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homes in the first sentence of the bylaw and then allow them with a special permit in the next sentence?
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J. Simons: Do you know how many people, who have existing two-family dwellings, have gone before the ZBA in
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the last six years?
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C. Foster: Currently we have 420 two-family dwellings and there are over 50 condex units. That means approx.
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1000 families are affected by the Article that is in effect right now.
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J. Simons: How many of those people have had to go before the ZBA in the last six years?
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C. Foster: The problem with determining that is that the zoning bylaw is not being enforced. The Building
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Inspector, in his opinion, says that there were no problems with the existing units at the time. The problem was with
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the new units that were being brought in. So, he is continuing to issue building permits for work on the houses even
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though they are non-conforming. Why eliminate two-family homes in one sentence and then allow them with a
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special permit in the next sentence?
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R. Rowen: Does the Article say they are not allowed ‘as of right’ or that they are not allowed?
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C. Foster: They are removed from the permitted list.
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J. Simons: What problem are you trying to solve?
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C. Foster: We had a right to be there as two-family units and our rights have been taken away.
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R. Rowen: When these houses were built they were conforming. We have declared after the fact that they are non-
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conforming and it doesn’t say ‘by right’. People who built conforming residences now have to go through extra
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steps if they want to modify their house where a single family house does not need to go through those same steps.
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J. Simons: I am trying to quantify how big a problem it is.
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C. Foster: Why were the existing two families made non-conforming? They weren’t a problem. We propose the
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existing two families be put back as an allowed use. Any two-family coming in should have to get a special permit.
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J. Simons: Judy, we need to talk to the Building Inspector and the ZBA to get their opinions. It is a legitimate
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point, but I think we need to go back and resurrect all the history of what we have done. We should have another
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Public Discussion and a Public Hearing.
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George Schruender, 91 Quail Run Lane, Is in the Real Estate Business and has run into some issues with the ZBA
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on two-family houses. It comes up more importantly when there is an existing two-family that wants to do a lot of
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work.
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J. Simons: If you could summarize your facts and send them to Judy it would be a big help.
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R. Rowen: Asked to resurrect what issue the Board was trying to solve at the time of the Amendment went forward.
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It would be a help to the Board members that were not present at the time or do not remember the reason for it.
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Bruce Allen: Owns a two-family and a single family and agrees with C. Foster and would like to see the
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neighborhood protected without penalizing the owners of existing two-families.
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J. Simon: Let’s do this again in a couple of months so that we still have plenty of time before Town Meeting.
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J. Smolak to present proposed zoning change
for Fall Special Town Meeting 2010 regarding CDD2.
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Judy: Drive-throughs are prohibited within all the CDD Districts (1, 2, and 3). Mr. Smolak is asking for a zoning
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change for the Fall Town Meeting. He has submitted some specific language and there are a set of parcels being
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looked at. One issue is the amount of uplands and wetlands on these parcels. The other thing for the Board to
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consider is that we do have to schedule a Public Hearing for this proposal. We are required to notice it two weeks
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prior.
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J. Simons: We have talked about this CDD1 and CDD2 zoning area for a long time and we have tried to come up
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with a solution that balances the interests of the landowners, abutters and town. It was challenging in this district
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because a lot of the properties on both sides of the street are close to abutters, many are small properties, many do
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not go back off the street very deeply, and in many cases there are wetlands. We ended up with what we think was a
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reasonable solution. We continue to look at it and evaluate whether it makes sense for all the properties in this
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district. It is important the have a very open process and transparency and we appreciate you coming in to discuss
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this matter.
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J. Smolak, attorney for Al McGregor: (John is present with Ben Osgood, engineer, John Pelich, project manager,
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and Al McGregor, owner of the property). The proposal that we have is to amend the CDD2 provisions of the
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zoning bylaw to allow for a bank to have a drive-through. Currently under Section 16 of the zoning bylaws for the
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CDD2 district a bank is provided by right but without a drive-through. An overview of the site and surrounding
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locations along Turnpike Street was provided. There is serious proposal from a bank with a drive-through facility
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that is interested in the property. There is a long history of rezoning along Turnpike Street. With respect to this
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parcel, in 2005 the site was divided by both Village Commercial and the Business 1 Zoning District which made it
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very difficult to develop as a cohesive plan because of varying dimensional requirements. Back in 2005 and 2006
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the Planning Board worked with the Planning Department to develop a plan for this corridor and the CDD district
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was adopted at Town Meeting. In conjunction with the adoption of the district there was an amendment to the
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zoning map. There are many constraints to development on the parcels within this district due to size of lots,
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wetlands, flood planes, shape of lots, paper streets, ect. Many of these constraints exist on Mr. McGregor parcels;
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however there are a number of distinctions that need to be made between these parcels and other parcels in the
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district and across the street. First, the site contains close to two acres of upland area clustered along Rt114, thus
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provides for a larger footprint than other parcels in the area. The parcels total about 7 acres, but the upland is
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clustered around Rt. 114 which creates a separation from any neighborhoods in the area. The site has been an eye
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sore over a number of years and this presents an opportunity to upgrade the area and set a tone for the corridor. We
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are looking at a phased approach to the project. The bank with a drive-through (possibly one story or two stories)
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would be the first phase and there would be a second phase that we would evaluate in the future. It is our goal to
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have a development for this phase consistent with the uses within the CDD2 District.
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Ben Osgood, Jr., project engineer. Reviewed a conceptual site plan for the proposed bank, ran trough examples of
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some architectural designs that might be applied to the site, and reviewed some landscaping elements. He has
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compiled all existing information that Mr. McGregor has had completed over approximately the past five years. A
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big portion of the parcel is wetlands, a previous wetland line is shown, and the property line is a brook that is
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considered a river so there is a 200’ river front area that we have stayed out of. The building, as laid out, has taken
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into account the 50’ no build zone and a 25’ no disturb zone from the wetlands. We have designed a simple drive-
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up bank. There is a front offset of 10’ from the property line in this zone. We have pushed the building close to the
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street and put the parking in the back as well as the drive-through. Drive-troughs typically have 3 or less cars in the
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queue. The area designated for phase two was identified. Site distances to each surrounding dwelling were stated.
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There is a natural buffer zone of woods and wetlands between the proposed building and the surrounding dwellings
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so there will not be development in that area.
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J. Simons: How far back does the upland go on this parcel vs. the upland on the parcels further up in the district on
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both sides of the street?
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B. Osgood: On this parcel it is probably 250 feet. It is deeper than any other site in the immediate area.
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R. Rowen: How far from the edge of the pavement is the State right of way?
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B. Osgood: I believe it is about 20’
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B. Osgood: Displayed pictures of various banks from the area to present types of architecture and landscaping that
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might be appropriate for the site.
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J. Simons: How do you plan on doing this rezoning and how will you propose structuring it.
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J. Smolak: Handed out copies of a proposed Warrant Article. In the Corridor Development District section 16 of
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the bylaw we are proposing to add an additional use by special permit which would be a bank with a drive-through
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within the CDD2 district on parcel or parcels collectively comprising at least five acres of land.
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T. Seibert: What is the purpose of adding the ‘parcel’ or ‘parcels’ language in the proposal?
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J. Smolak: Because there are separate lots there. We would at some point in the future combine them as part of the
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ANR and special permit process. There might different financing for the bank verses another use on the property so
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we would like to keep the parcels separate for financing purposes.
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C. LaVolpicelo: How will you be presenting this at Town Meeting?
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J. Smolak: We haven’t decided that yet. I think we will gather the 100 signatures that we need to get this Warrant
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filed and then proceed to the Public Hearing that will be required. Then we will decide on a presentation at that
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time. We would love to have the Board sponsor the Article.
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T. Seibert: verified the location and size of the district.
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R. Rowen: If all the other parcels in the CDD2 district were combined would they even total 5 acres?
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J. Smolak: I haven’t calculated it but it is probably doubtful.
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J. Simons: The way this is being set up is that they will need Site Plan Review for the building but they will also
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need a Special Permit for the drive-through.
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J. Simons: I always find it useful in the case of rezoning that is associated with a specific property to at least get
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some idea of what can be done on the site because it gives you some idea if whether it will work or not.
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R. Rowen: The onus would be on you need to be your own salesman. Clearly you know the history of requests for
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drive-throughs along Rt. 114 and we have been dead set against it for a number of reasons for a long time. This is
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the first time I have seen something that may be acceptable.
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T. Seibert: Right now you have this going through a 50’ no build zone with the second tier of parking in the back
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parking lot. Why haven’t you tried to put that to the left of the building or put it elsewhere?
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B. Osgood: Again, this is a phase 1 and that’s just to leave room for whatever might what to propose for phase 2
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which would go more in the area of where the fence company is. My thought for those spaces is that there are
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provisions in the bylaw to bank spaces and maybe some of those are the spaces that are banked.
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Judy: Did the Board want to go into any more detail with regard to the wetlands?
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J. Simon: It is my understanding that you are going to come back with further wetland delineation. Whatever that
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says is going to determine what you can eventually do. Only to the extent that the delineation of the wetland is such
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that it makes it very problematic to put a drive-though there and create queuing distance would we possibly have a
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concern. We should address that question when we have the Public Hearing because we will have that information
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right on the delineation prior to that meeting and we can answer that question reasonably definitively at that time.
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B. Osgood: We are trying to provide as much information as we can and to do it economically. We haven’t looked
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at the wetlands yet. There are previous wetland delineations and we are confident that where we show them is
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where they are at. We will do as much as we can and keep the economics in check as we go through the Town
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Meeting process. The final wetland reviews would be done before we went to the Commission, if we did come to
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develop the site.
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J. Simons: I understand but I think we would like to have enough so that we can reasonably conclude that
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something like this is doable.
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Judy: There have been wetlands delineated since 2006 that you don’t show.
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B. Osgood: There was an isolated area there, that may be there now, but it wasn’t large enough to be protectable
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under the bylaw.
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Judy: I am just trying to bring up an issue that down the road could be an issue with the Conservation Committee.
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J. Simons: What I think we need to focus on now from the wetlands perspective is that is there anything we can see
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in the wetlands delineation that would seriously preclude the ability to put a drive-through in.
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R. Rowen: What we are discussing tonight is whether the proposed amendment to the zoning bylaw could be
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supportable. Whether or not, if you came in for Site Plan Review, anything would ever be approvable is to totally
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different subject.
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John Casey (abutter), 84 Innis Street, Will there be an egress lane?
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B. Osgood: we do depict a deceleration lane but it is just conceptual.
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J. Simons: I would be surprised if the state didn’t mandate it.
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J. Casey: Have you checked with the state on whether they plan to enlarge the street in that area? They might not
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like the building so close to the street.
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R. Rowen: The right of way is 20’ off the street and they would be 10’ beyond that.
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J. Casey: Do they town bylaws govern drive-throughs better than before so that we are not going to have a bank
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turn into a Dunkin’ Donuts like across the street?
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J. Simons: No. It says bank explicitly.
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Bill Wellock: 164 Hillside Rd, What was this property zoned before it became CDD2?
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J. Smolak: It was a split zone. Village Commercial and Business 1.
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B. Wellock: Was there allowed drive-thoughs then?
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J. Smolak: Yes.
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J. Simons: We have to schedule this for a Public Meeting. We should plan to do November 9, 2010.
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Judy: We will have two weeks prior to advertise it and it would have to be in the Senior Center.
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J. Smolak: We are trying to be as economical as possible in terms of going through the rezoning process then going
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through the technical aspects of the project. We will do our best on wetlands but first we have to take the
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delineation survey and then go through the formal process. I am not sure it will be complete by Nov. 9
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we should have a comfort range for that.
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J. Simons: I think it is better that you get the 100 signatures than that we do it.
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Peter Breen is here to ask for a Lot Release
for 99 Ogunquit Lane
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Judy: I do have the bond information. The bank statement balance is over $25K for Ogunquit Lane. For Rocky
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Brooke Road there is a balance of over $49K. I believe in this case there was a subdivision bond posted but the lots
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where never released.
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Peter Breen, 770Boxford Street. I have owned the land since 1976. I actually did build two houses there in 2000 so
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I must have gotten a release somewhere----lot 11 and lot 12. I hot topped in April of 2000.
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J. Simons: We were confused on how a house could have been constructed when the lot has never been released.
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What are you trying to do and how many other lots are there under the covenant?
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P. Breen: I am trying to close on this house, 99 Ogunquit Rd. There are 5 more lots in addition to this.
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J. Simons: In order to get the street accepted at Town Meeting how much more work do you have to do?
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P. Breen: I would have to put the final coat of hot top on.
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J. Simons: My inclination is authorize the release of this particular lot subject to the Town Planner’s review and just
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make sure everything is in order and in balance on this.
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MOTION
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R. Rowen: I move to approve the lot release for lot 5on Ogunquit Rd. subject to review by the Town Planner that
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the town is adequately protected with other lots that have not been released plus the existing bond. T. Seibert
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seconded the motion. The vote was unanimous.
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Planning Board Bond Balances:
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J. Simons: We have 1.8 million dollars worth of bonds in the Planning Department. We should make some attempt
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to close them out if the street has been accepted. Maybe you can notify some people after doing a cross check to see
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if the street has been accepted. Most of them are subdivisions. There are some very old subdivisions.
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Judy: I would say that for most of them the streets have not been accepted.
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MOTION
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R. Rowen moved that Oct. 5, 2020 minutes be approved, as amended. T. Seibert seconded the motion. The vote
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was unanimous.
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MOTION
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R. Rowen moved the meeting be adjourned. T. Seibert seconded the motion. The vote was unanimous.
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The meeting adjourned at 9:13 pm.
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