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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1977-05-04~Y 4, 1977 - Wednesday Special Nesting The PLANNINO BOAP~ held a Special Meeting on Wednesda~ evening, ~y 4, 1977 at 7:30 P.M. in the Town Office Meeting Room. ~he following members were present.and voting: P~ul R. Lamprey, Chairman; William N. Sa!same, Vice-Chairman; John J. Monteiro and ~_ichael P. Roberts. Meeting called to order at 8:10 P.M. CARLE~ON FARMS PRELIMINARY PLAN: Owner, S. Forbes Rockwell. Frank Gelinas represented the applicant. Location on 5~mmer ~t. of approximately 100 acres, 90 lots. It was noted that there may not be ~0 lots because of a couple of sensitive areas. 800 + 3,000 + ~6OO ft. of roadway within the subdivision. ~e entire perimeter is fairly well wooded except for the pasture; a couple of large drainage swales; will be serviced by water, drainage and roadway specifications. Pat ~rombly, Con. Com., commented that the wetlands will be drastically altered just by putting in the roads. Mr. 0elinas stated that he felt Mr. Rock, eli's timing was a little advanced because he is in no big hurry to develop it. In talking with Rockwell, he said, a suggestion was made to spend some time with the BOARD in coming up with a type of variation. He was willing to do this. Pat ?rombly suggested that they should all get some materials together for the Planner which h~ve been compile~l from various work shops, etc. Mrs. Mandry, Summer St.: distv, rbed by the roadway going through as it will alter the water table in an already wet area. Much discussion regarding zoning followed. Mr. Monteiro made a motion to take the matter under advisement and have the subdivision control subcommittee walk the site. Mr. Salemme seconded and the vote was unanimous. CAMPION HALL - John Warlick: Bounded by Brooks School, Oreat Pond Rd. & La~e Cochiche- wick; retain 16-17 acres for the major buildings themselves; take the frontages lots along Oreat Pond Rd. and subdivide into acre lots; along the La~e, subdivide 6 other lots of 4 acres; on the remaining 70 acres there would be 15 lots, approximately 4 acres per lot. The plans show maximum of the road layout. Mr. Roberts questioned the impact on the Lake. ~elinas, engineer, stated that there would be 4 leeching systems. There are certain requirements for subsurface disposal systems which everyone will have to abide by and forsee some State involvement because of the sensitivity of the area. Galen 0sgood suggested taking a look at the !soil study done previeusly. Ted Phelan, Assessor, stated that he might be better off with a tax concession than selling off some of the lots. Mr. Warlick basically asked that the driveway be accepted as is, it will continue on down to the cul de sac shown on the plan. Mr. ~elinas told the Board that 1) these are the densities that the developer needs to get the project into operation, 2) needs a waiver from the BOARD on the road,i and 3) it would be less disruptive to the Lake by eliminating heavy construction. They are trying to eliminate the ch~nelization of water and would like to locate and protect ~he swales. Also, would like to minimize the amount of lawn area by leaving much in n~tural state. The boat launching area needs to be preserved. ~he intended use is for a culinary school; couldn't determine whether or not the school would be taxable or non-taxable. Would have to create more lots i~ he is required to go by sutdivision standards. If you pass this opportunity, said Oelinas, you don't know what will happen afterwards. Mr. Lamprey commented that it would have to be a very unique situation for the BOARD to go along with it. Mr. Monteiro made a motion to refer the matter to the Subdivision Control Subcommittee and Mr. Reb.erts seconded . Vote was unanimous. Mr. Warlick a~lded that he would be willing to say no leeching within 200 f~. of Lake, leave the wooded area basically CAMPION HALL P~.I~INARY DISCUSSION - ~ 4, (Messere Sale,e, Monteiro, Roberts) (Mr. Lamprey arrived later) John ~.rliok represented himself. ~tated th~$ he would retain ~6-~? acres for the major buildings themselves; take the frontage l~ts along areat Pond Rd. and subdivide into ~g acre lots; subdivide 6 other lots of 4 acres each along the Lake. Mr. Roberts questioned the impact on the Lake - ~rank ~elinas, engineer for proposed project, said there would be 4 leeching systems and there are certain requirements for subsurface disposal systems which everyone will have to abide by. He fore'Mw some State involvement because of sensitivity to the area. (~on Osgood suggested taking a look at the stud~ done previously on the soil. Nember Roberts felt he would need some expert testimon~ on this matter. Ted Phelan, Assessor, felt he might be better off with a tax concession than selling off s~ae of the lots. Mr. Warlick asked that the drivewa~v ~e accepted as is and he would have it continue on dc~n to the cul de sac as shc~n on the plan. ~r. Gelinas added, you are looking at the densities that the o~ner needs to get ~he thug into operation, he needs a ~aiver the roa~, it would be less disruptive to the Lake By eliminating heavy construction. They are %~. to eliminate the oha~nelization of water, would like to locate and protect the swales, and leave la~n area na~ural~ the boat launchi~ area needs to be preserved. The intended use of the main building is for a culinary arts school but couldn't determine whether or not the school would be taxable or In reply to questi~s about the roa~ Mr. Warlick Stated that it is the ~nly troy he can retrieve his money (by leaving it as is and having the ?own take it over). He is meeting on Monday with the Building Inspectors from the Town and State to determine fire and other conditions. Re stated, further, that if the ?owm ~anted to Back the school with so~e kind of loan he could see n~t develop~tg the area. Mr. Gelinas ~aid they are pr~iding a ~0 ft. fee on the right of wa~v. Mr. Lamprey asked ~hat reason he would give the BQARD for accepting this proposal. ~elinas - he will have to take 16 acres along Great Pond Rd. and on the remaining 70 acres he is going to put 1~ lots, would h~ve to create more lots if he has to put the ro~d to subdivision standards. If yon pass this opportunity up yon don't k~ow what will happen afterwards. Mr. Bamprey commented that it would have to be unique to allow the ~ to go along with ~hiso There is only a 6# water e~in out there w~ich have to be improved. Mr. NonYeiro ma~e a motion to refer the matter to the Subdivision Oontrbl Subcommittee. Mr. Lamprey seconded. )~. Harlick told the membership that he would Be willing to say no leeching within 200 f~., leave the wooded area basically as is, maintain a conservation restriction for 200 ft. from the Lake and would give up the section of the boat launch. The vote on the motion was unanimous. Na~4, 1~77 - oOn~o as it is, maintain a conservation restriction for 200 f~. from the Lake, and would give up the section of the boat launch. Meeting ajourned at 10:30 P'M. Chairman Gilda BlackCock