HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997-05-20 Planning Board Minutes Planning Board Meeting
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May 20, 1997
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Members Present:
Joseph Mahoney, Chairman, Alison Lescarbeau, Clerk, Alberto
Angles, Associate Member, were present. Richard Rowen, Vice
Chairman, arrived at 7 : 03p.m. Richard Nardella arrived at 7 : 25
p .m. John Simons arrived at 7 : 30 p.m. William Scott, Director of
Community Development was also present.
Minutes :
On a motion by Ms . Lescarbeau, seconded by Mr. Rowen, the Board
voted unanimously to approve the minutes for April 8, 1997 .
On a motion by Mr. Rowen, seconded by Mr. Angles, the Board voted
unanimously to approve the minutes of April 15, 1997 .
Correspondence:
Paul Donahue sent a memorandum of understanding for the Board to
look over. Mr. Scott stated that Town Council has a copy of the
understanding. Mr. Scott stated that we won' t review the plans
until we have a signed memorandum. Mr. Scott stated that Mr.
Donahue will be at the next meeting.
Mr. Mahoney stated that paragraph E is not necessary. Mr. Scott
stated that it is a memo not an agreement .
Discussion:
Long Pasture Estates - Lot 8
Mr. Scott state that he has received 2 letters on the project and
most abutters have concerns regarding drainage . There was a
.letter from Nancy Wedge regarding some concerns . Mr. Scott
stated that Mike Howard of the Conservation Department responded
to her letter.
Steve Crowley was present stating that he would like permission
to construct a house on lot 8 prior to the installation of the
swale to allow water drainage on Forest Street . He would like to
install the drainage Swale after the road has been completed to
Forest Street .
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Mr. Scott stated that Mr. Crowley should install the swale prior
to the installation of the house.
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Lyons Way - update
Tom Laudani was present to give the Board an update on Lyons Way.
The project a 7 lot subdivision which is across the street from
Campbell Forest . There is no change in the zoning it is still R-
2 . Mr. Laudani had met with Ms . Colwell to go over some
outstanding issues . Some outstanding issues were the bonds and
issues with the Board of Health. Mr . Laudani is asking the Board
to look over the special conditions in the decisions and they
will modify the plan.
Mr. Scott asked Mr. Laudani if it was a lack of the applicant not
bring the mylar to the Planning Department or was it the Planning
Departments fault . Mr. Laudani stated that there was pending
litigation with DEP and that' s why the mylars were never
submitted to the Planning Department .
Mr. Mahoney stated that the Board will have to look over the file
and asked Mr. Laudani to come back in 2 weeks .
Merrimack College - establish a bond
Mr. Scott recommends that Merrimack College give a bond through
Reliance Insurance rather than a cash bond for the reason that
their accountants recommend that for organizations such as theirs
they should be able to have an insurance bond.
Continued:
200 Chickering Road (Rennies) - site plan review
Mark Gross of MHF Design and Peter Shaheen were present . Mr.
Scott stated that they did tests on Monday and the water tables
were higher and they addressed the issues and sent them to John
Chessia and he had no major issues .
Mr. Gross stated that he could design a system on a 7 inch water
table.
Mr. Rowen stated that at the last meeting the attorney for
Heritage Estates had brought up some issues at the last meeting
and wanted to know if they have been addressed. Mr. Scott stated
that they did additional testing.
Mr. Rowen asked if they are planning on having a maintenance plan
to include in the decision. Mr. Gross stated that there are 6
pages in the drainage report for maintenance . Mr. Gross stated
that on site litter would be picked up weekly, sediment and
underground tanks will be inspected monthly and the water Swale
will be inspected twice a year.
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The Board would like to have a maintenance plan put in the
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Mr. Shaheen stated that he thought we addressed these issues at
the last meeting and both traffic consultants agreed.
Mr. Nardella asked if we had anything from Sgt . Soucy. Ms ,
Lescarbeau stated that there is a letter in our packets that
states that you should not cross over the white line .
Mr. Shaheen stated that it is a line to show that the width of
the road is almost at an end. Ms . Lescarbeau stated that you are
trying to make a bad situation worse by using the sides of the
road. Why don' t you just widen the road.
Mr. Shaheen stated that at the last meeting we suggested that an
inexpensive way to improve the road would be to add a patch of
pavement to the side of the road so people could use it . Mr.
Shaheen believes that if it is widened people might not slow down
but, speed up and also they are not allowed to widen the road
without the state to say it was O.K.
Mr. Nardella stated that we a legitimate difference of opinion on
that .
Mr. Shaheen stated that the applicant meets all the requirements
for site plan review so they should get the approval .
Mr. Mahoney stated that Mr . Shaheen is right if they meet all
requirements we cannot deny them.
Mr. Nardella stated that he is not opposed for them to start
construction and then widening the road.
Mr. Nardella stated that when it snows and the plows are pushing
the snow and it covers that side of the road how are the people
then going to pass .
Mr. Rowen stated that we have had 3 traffic people say that the
road should not be widened and that people would speed up if it
was widened and that' s not what we want .
Mr. Mahoney stated that he agrees .
Mr. Shaheen stated that the applicant might contribute to the
cost of the road. Mr. Shaheen stated that we are walling to do
extra to get the approval .
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Jim Mcartney stated that the City of Haverhill has approved to
widen Rt . 125 and they don' t have a concern with speeding. Mr.
Mcartney also state that he would like the North Andover Police
Department to write a letter stating that it is legal for people
to pass over the white line . Also he would like it put in the
decision that if the owner of the mall goes belly up that someone
has to maintain the drainage system.
Mr. Nardella stated that there will be a bond to ensure that you
would be protected.
Mark Johnson, representing Heritage Estates, disagrees with Mr.
Mahoney. In section 8 . 3 iA, the purpose of it is to protect the
health and safety of the residents and people . This is a site
which has a building as big as you can get on the site . The
drainage is not easy to get to and if it fails the Heritage Green
people will be the only ones who will get hurt . The building is
so big they can' t even put a detention pond on the site so it is
underneath. The traffic configuration is not good for any of the
residents . Mr. Johnson stated that his biggest concern is the
statement "we have met all requirements so you have to approve
it" .
Mr . Rowen stated that he shares concerns with the drainage but it
would have been fool proof if Heritage green tie into their
sewer.
Jim Mcartney stated that in response to Mr . Rowen' s comment,
would you like it if someone used access on your driveway. It is
private property.
Mr . Rowen stated that my point was that they denied them to tie
into the sewer so they will have to live with what happens .
Elvira Curcio, 23 Edgelawn passed out packets to the Board
members .
Mr. Shaheen stated that he is looking for them to accept the site
plan review and close the public hearing.
On a motion by Mr. Nardella, seconded by Mr. Rowen the Board
voted 4-1 to close the public hearing.
On a motion by Mr. Rowen , seconded by Mr. Angles, the Board
voted 4-1 to direct staff to draft a decision.
757 Turnpike Street (Stop & Shop) - site plan review
Tom Laudani was present representing Stop & Shop. Mr . Laudani
stated that there are no major outstanding issues with John
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Chessia. Mr. Laudani, Mr. Scott, Mr. Stapinski and Mr. Chessia
met last Thursday. Mr. Chessia submitted a letter to the Board
stating there are only a couple of issues remaining on the
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Mr. Simons stated that he would like to see something done with
the left hand front side of the building.
Richard Landry of Landry Design Group, stated that they can' t do
to much because that is where the bakery and the pharmacy are .
Mr. Laudani stated that they have been on a site visit to N.
Reading and through extensive review of this and I thought we had
an agreement .
Mr. Laudani suggested that they do a design on the wall with the
bricks protruding.
Mr. Rowen asked what the wall on the right hand side of the
building was so long for. Mr. Landry stated that the Board asked
for that so it would screen the trucks that would be delivering
products .
Steve Stapinski stated they have developed a new model for
drainage and submitted it to John Chessia and will have comments
back by this week.
Mr. Rowen asked if this drainage system is going to require a
maintenance system. Mr. Stapinski stated that they are going to
be filing a Notice of Intent with the Conservation Department and
they will be providing a maintenance plan to them due to the
Storm Water Management .
Mr, Nardella stated that he would like it put in the decision
that the owner pays for the maintenance plan twice a year.
Mr. Scott stated that if they are going to submit the maintenance
plan to ConCom that they could submit it to Planning Department
to put in the special conditions .
Mr. Scott stated that they have to get there information into us
by the 27th of May then we can have a decision pending on the
receipt of the plans .
Mr. Rowen asked if they need a permit to be open 24 hours . Mr.
Scott stated that they have to go before the Board of Selectmen.
Mr. Laudani stated that Chief Stanley sent a letter of his
support of it being open 24 hours .
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Mr. Rowen asked if when we issue the decision it states that they
have to go before the Board of Selectmen. Mr. Scott stated that
they have to go before them anyway.
Jay Diorio of Hillside Road, stated that he does not believe they
have not addressed all the traffic issues . He stated that his
property is going to be depreciated because of the Stop & Shop
and because of all the traffic problems now.
Ms . Lescarbeau stated that they are improving the traffic
problems by having lights with a delay and by widening the road.
Mr. Laudani stated that he has given Mr. Diorio his card several
times and stated that to call him if he would like to talk about
any problems to call him and he never contacted him. Mr. Laudani
stated that we are widening the roads and synchronizing the
lights . Mr. Laudani also stated that Stop & Shop is going to pay
for the corridor study.
Mr. Rowen asked if we could put in the decision that they can' t
put banners on the front of the fence .
On a motion by Mr. Rowen, seconded by Mr. Simons, the Board
voted unanimously to close the public hearing and direct staff to
draft a decision.
Orchard Hill Commerce Park - definitive plan
Tom Zahoruiko was present to represent Orchard Hill Commerce
Park. Mr. Zahoruiko stated that they are widening the existing
road by 40' with a turn around.
Mr . Scott recommends closing the public hearing.
On a motion by Mr. Nardella, seconded by Mr. Rowen, the Board
voted unanimously to close the public hearing.
Orchard Hill Road - site plan review
Mr. Scott stated that Mr. Zahoruiko has addressed all remaining
issues and recommends closing the public hearing.
On a motion by Mr. Nardella, seconded by Mr. Rowen, the Board
voted unanimously to close the public hearing.
Red Gate Pasture - definitive plan
Ben Osgood Jr. was present to represent Red Gate Pasture . Mr.
Osgood stated that he submitted new plans to Mr. Chessia but, has
not received any comments . Mr. Osgood stated that they put the
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detention pond higher up on the site . They plan to tie into
Salem Street with an outlet structure and use the existing catch
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Mr. Rowen asked what the heavy lines were on the plan. Mr.
Osgood stated that they show the erosion control . There will be
hay bails placed at the slopes to protect from any erosion.
Mr. Nardella asked if Mr. Osgood if he could do anything with the
orientation with the orientation of the street. Mr. Osgood
stated that this site is to small for a PRD.
Mr. Osgood stated that the original concept was to hold drainage
at the entrance . There are 17 different ponds on the site
because they consider catch basins ponds .
Mr. Osgood plans to dig a trench of 3 !,�' to intercept the
groundwater .
Mr. Rowen asked what kind of slopes will they be . Mr. Osgood
stated that they will be 2-1 .
M. Mahoney stated that we should schedule a site walk for May 28,
1997 at 6: 30 p.m.
Steven Cyr of 895 Salem Street, stated that there is a serious
drainage problem. There was only going to be 2 houses not 4 .
Mr. Cyr also stated that his property already gets flooded during
rain storms . Mr. Cyr stated that if Foxwood wasn' t there maybe
there wouldn' t be a problem if Foxwood wasn' t already there .
Mr. Mahoney stated that maybe you should attend the site walk.
Ms . Edy of 886 Salem Street, stated that she has lived there for
17 years and put in a sump pump and never used it until Foxwood
was put in.
Mr. Tombarelli asked if everyone could attend the site walk and
if the water is going to flow across Salem Street.
Mr. Osgood stated that the piping is able to hold the water. Mr.
Osgood stated that that' s where the water goes now and post
development .
Robert Meikle of 879 Salem Street, stated that he has a constant
problem with the basement when it rains, he always has to put the
sump pump on when it rains . He will also attend the site walk.
Mr. Rowen asked how much frontage they have. Mr. Osgood stated
that they have 180' of frontage .
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Mr. Cyr asked who will be responsible for the property in front
of the house . Mr. Osgood stated that the people who purchase the
house .
Ms . Edy stated that the Board should keep in mind the traffic is
already very bad.
Mr. Osgood sent a letter requesting a 45 day extension. Mr.
Scott recommends to grant the extension pursuant to the
applicants request .
On a motion by Mr. Rowen, seconded by Mr. Simons, the Board voted
unanimously to grant the extension.
Decisions :
Orchard Hill Commerce Park - definitive plan
On a motion by Mr. Rowen, seconded by Ms . Lescarbeau, the Board
voted unanimously to approve Orchard Hill Commerce Park
definitive subdivision.
Orchard Hill Road - site plan review
Discussion on the amount of the bond for site plan review was
talked about the amount decided on was $5, 000 .
On a motion by Mr. Rowen, seconded by Mr. Nardella, the Board
voted unanimously to approve the Orchard Hill Road site plan
review as amended.
Endorse Plans :
476 Chickering Road (Sal' s Pizza) - site plan review
Mr. Scott recommended that the Board endorse the plans .
The Board endorsed the plans .
Lot 1 Forest Street Extension - Form. A
Mr. Scott recommended that the Board endorse the plans .
The Board endorsed the plans .
Bonds/Lot Releases :
Hickory Hill - site opening bond release
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Mr. Scott recommends the release of the bond.
On a motion by Mr. Nardella, seconded by Ms . Lescarbeau, the
Board voted unanimously to release the remaining balance plus
interest for the site opening bond.
Hickory Hill - performance bond release -
Mr. Scott recommends the release of the bond.
On a motion by Mr. Nardella, seconded by Ms . Lescarbeau, the
Board voted unanimously to release the remaining balance plus
interest for the performance bond.
1077 Osgood Street (Butcher Boy) -bond release
Mr. Scott went out to the property with Mr. Ragonese and Mr.
Yameen. Mr. Scott suggested they plant 8 more arbravities along
the wall for a screen for Mr . Ragonnese .
Mr. Scott recommends the release of the bond after the trees are
planted.
Election of Officers:
On a motion by Mr. Nardella, seconded by Ms . Lescarbeau, the
Board voted unanimously to elect Richard S . Rowen as Chairman.
On a motion by Mr. Nardella, seconded by Mr. Mahoney, the Board
voted unanimously to elect Alison Lescarbeau as Vice Chairman.
On a motion by Mr. Nardella, seconded by Ms . Lescarbeau, the
Board voted unanimously to elect John Simons as Clerk.
Adjournment•
On a motion by Mr. Rowen, seconded by Mr. Nardella, the Board
voted unanimously to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 10 : 10 p .m.
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