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COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS
G.L. C. 131 a. 40
REQUEST TO DETERMINE APPLICABILITY OF THE WETLAND PROTECTION ACT
the undersigned, hereby request that the North Andover Conservation Comm.
(name of Conservation Commission)
make a determination as to whether or not * the Act is applicable to the area, or work
to be performed on said areat*a description of which is submitted herewith and made
a part of this request.
2. The name(s) and address(es)of the owner(s) of the area are:
Helen Louise Hanson
369 South Lake Drive
Palm Beach, Florida
3. 1 hereby certify that all abutters (attached list) to the area described above which
is subject to this written request, and the owner, if not the person making the request�
have been notified that a determination is.being requested of the Conservation Commission
.under the Act.
4. 1 have filed a copy of this request w - ith the appropriate regional office of the
Massachusetts Department of Environmental Quality Engineering, (see map for regions and
addresses).
Northeast x Southeast Central Western
5. Is the area subject to this request in, or within 100 feet of: a coastal dune no
coastal bank no coastal beach no ; salt marsh no land under the ocean
a salt pond no anadromous/cat7a—dromous fish-run,no do not know I
Signature
John Tuttle, Exec. V.P.
LANDSAIL, INC., 292 Beacon St., Boston, Mass.
Address
December 6, 1978
. Date
May 23, 1979
Mr. Thomas B. Powers
Deputy Gtneral Counsel
Department of Environmental
Ouality Engineering
100 Cambridge Street - Room 1901
Boston, Massachusetts 02202
RE: Ouail Run, North Andover - Request for Determination
Dear Mr. Powers:
I wish to thank you for your proirpt reply (April 20, 1979) to P�v letter
(April 12, 1979) regarding the above referenced matter. Since that time the
North Andover Conservation Commission has considered the matter further and
discussed it with Mr. Gregor I flcGregor. This has resulted in the Coninission
requesting that I write to you again to communicate at least two (2) points
which I failed to note or emphasize in my.earlier letter.
The first point is that while it is true that there is no work proposed
within areas subject to the Wetlands Protection Act, it is povposed to create
a 11pondinq area" on site in order to attenuate the increased peak rate of
surface runoff,caused by thp less frequent storm events, leaving the site.
This aspect, as proposed, would cause a floodinn condition to be created on
site which does not exist at the present time. in addition there still exists
an increase in the volume of surface water rundff from the site as I outlined
in my earlier letter.
The second point is that the Commission wished to eRphasize that the pro-
posed connection of this new drainage system will be a direct connection to
wetland areas located athhhe discharqe point of the tQVn drainaqe approximately
. If the drainage were to travel in natural ways we believe
2000 feet "downgipe
that there may e an unwarranted extension of the concept of "alter", but since
the water travels in a man-made system we believe this altering comes under the
definition of "alter" contained in the Regulations.
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TO: Mr, Powers FRO7,1: H.A. Cons. Comm.
RE: Quail Run DATE: 5/23/79
At this time the North Andover Conservation Commission has Issued a deter-
mination which states that if the applicant takes such rwasures(Abich will prevent
the altering of the drainage and flovi tharacteristics (flow rate and volume)
leaving the site a Notice of Intent will not be required. If these measures
are not Implemented then a Notice of Intent will be required based on the North
Andover Conseraation Commission's definition of the word "alter". Ile have also
supplied the applicant with specifications on havi this requesteday be satisfied.
Thus the North Andover Conservation Commission wishes to request that you
consider the additional information I have outlined above and inforn. us if
this information alters the opinion expressed in your letter of April 20, 1979.
Thank you for any consideration given to this request. I have included
our previous correspondence for your convenience.
Very truly yours,
Vincent S. Turano, Ph.D.
Chairman
VST/dlp
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CONSI,�RVATIOTNI COMMISSION
NORTH ANDOVER, MASSACHUSEWS 01845
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APIRILY"
April 27, 1979
Mr. John Tuttle, Exec. V.P.
LANDSAIL, INC.,
292, Beacon Street
Boston, Mass.
Dear Mr. Tuttle,p
In r'eply'to your request of det-erminatioTl regard i inf the
proposed subdivision known as Quail �un and P'ljrs,uant to all
agreement betlqeen your representative Frank Gwlinas and t�e
North Andover Conservation Commission as of 4/11/79, thp
North Andover C6nservation Commission has detqrpined th�,t
providing the work is dpne in compliance with a letter,
copy enclosed, dated 4/2/79 to the North Andover Planning
Board, the propo!ied area will not be pubject to'the-act.
Sincerely yo�rs'
George Stern
Member
GBS/meb
cc: MT. Fran� Gelinas
North Andover Planning Board
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April 2, 1979
Pl,anning Bo�rd
North Andover Town Hall
North Andovpr,,",1'jassachusetts 01845
RE: Quail Run
Dear Sirs and Madam:
-teet! - orth Andover Consepation.
At the 11 31 .1979 11 _np of the
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t1he CO,ril-iission recelv,�d and- reviewed the
Pitainage qetails
��nd j.,eiated calculations associated vji'L-,h t�e above PpPerenced subdi-
w'-h ',,r. Frank Gelinas, the appiican�'s engipeer. Baled on*
s c) n
, he subi-riitted subdiv1sion plans and proposed drainage changes , the
;,orth Andover Conservation Commission wishes 'Go make the follpwil-Ig
i,-,-_'cojmi-,endatJLons:
1. An additional outlTall apd assoc ' iated beadwall be provided
.bet..w.e-e.n.Lots 8 (eight) and 9 (nine). The Commission feels
this will aid in attenuating and dissipating any increase
in runoff from the entire site. According to Mr. Gelinas
th1s proposal is in line with the liigb�,,,�a
y Surveyor's
S u s t 10 1'] S
In o_r'der to adl�tross the problem of an increased rate and
volurrie of run( t
_)ff from the site, particularly in the vicinity*
of Lots 5 (five) and 0' (six), a retention storage area be
establl-sh,--d Gn T.ots � (five) _ff uld
, 11 G and/o�_6 s_x�_____This wo-
entail only a m1nor chanc-e in control details as suggested
M the submit1ted pl-ns the Commission reviewed with Mr.
G e 11- na s . I
- (j- I I dcs116-r based on a o)e-in-t,,.;enty-f ive
3 E, c e e uL
hen �:-pi:,opii.Jate chanf17-s be in -
.(25,) y--av t I -p
t I _`1 6 j ner-c-ased voluMe and rate, of run -
v c-, s T e d t o n d I e t Y e i
off of the rinore event. AE-,aln it appears only minor
chancres need be ]n,2c)-L,j_.1orat.(_-d in the submit1toed plans in Order
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')Ieve this ob e c, 1c. i
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TO: Planning Bc.ard -2-
Fi�1,014: Cons e -,i --vat ion
RE: Quail Run DATE April 2
1979
4. The drainage system associated with this subdivision
not be directly connected to Town drainage along Chestnut
Street. The Commission feels that such a connection
may zlesult in increases in runoff which are not necessary
or warranted if the recommendations outlin--d above are
incorporated In the plans.
If the Planning Board wishes to meet to (1,1-3cuss these recom-
qntact
mendations, or has any questions, please do not hesitate to c
the Conservqtion Connfm.Iss.lon.
For the Conservatipn Commislion,
Vi ncent S. Tu,,-ano, Ph.D. , C�pirman
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1i !,shA,ay Surveyor
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Larid Sail Inc. . q prank Geltnas
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JOHN J. WILLIS, SR.
Town Counsel
OFFICE OF TOWN COUNSEL
' 160 PLEASANT STREET
TOWN OF NORTH ANDOVER, MASSACHUSETTS 01845
North Andover
Town Hall
North Andover,
Gentlemen:
April 24,
Conservation Commission
MA 01845
Ri�': Quail Run.-' North Andover
The authority that the North Andover Conservation
Commission has to regulate comes specifically from the
statutes, namely Chapter 131, Section 40. This statute
gives you jurisdiction over a development only in a
"wetland area". According to your letter of April 12,
you indicate that the subdivision in question is not
within the "wetland area". It necessarily follows there-
fore, that you have no further jurisdiction over this
subdivision.
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You seem to have assumed a position that you have
jurisdiction over flooding. The only jurisdiction you
have over flooding is where as spelled out in the statute..
a person attempts to Itemove, fill, dredge ..... o..* .... any
land subject to tidal action, coastal storm flowage, or
flooding" .......... In the instance of Quail Run, there
appears to be no area subject to flooding. That is another
reason that you gain no further jurisdiction over this
development.
Now with respect to the omission of the ultimate
drainage onto land of other persons, you might gain
jurisdiction in that area if the drainage to be installed
again goes into the jurisdiction area that is granted you
by the statute, namely "the alteration of wetland". In
the description that you give me regarding Quail Run, it
would appear that the area of the Trustees of Reservations
to be affected will only be affected by the disposition of
town drainage onto their land. It is my understanding from
the Highway Surveyor that he intends to obtain an easement
from the Trustees of Reservations to particularly define
the area into which the drainage is to be deposited. You
are of course aware that even a municipal department must
North Andover Conservation Commission April 24, 1979
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Re: Quail Run, North.Andover
comply with the provisions of the "Wetland -s Act".
I would however suggest that in the spirit of cooper-
ation and in light of the need of as little interference as
possible where the Highway Surveyor is concerned in his
attempt to solve serious drainage problems in this communi-
ty, your Board should make every effort to cooperate. The
formalities for obtaining permission to enter wetlands and
the limitations that you impose upon such development, should
be minimal.
V ry truly yours,
h J W
n J. Ilis
Town Counsel
J,Jlq: psw
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ANT ONY D. CORTESE
COMMISSIONER
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OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL, ROOM 1901, TELEPHONE 727-4658
April 20, 1979
Vincent S. Turano, Ph. D., Chairman
North Andover Conservation Commission
Town offices husetts 01845
North Andover, Massac
Dear Mr. Turano:
I have received your letter to me of April 12, 1979 concern-
ing Quail Run in North Andover - Request for Determination. The
situation you outline is certainly a difficult one. However,
believe that the answer from the point of view of the Wetlands
Protection Act is clear.
As I understand your description, there are no wetland areas
within the site itself, no work i . s proposed to be done within 100
feet of any wetland or body of water, and the site is not subject
iew is that the work is not
to flooding. In that situation my v To hold otherwise would be
within the jurisdiction of the Act.
to expand the concept of "Alter" far beyond what the Department�
feels is the appropriate interpretation of that term. Since nearly
every project changes drainage'patterns and discharges water that
will eventually find its way to a stream or wetland, such an in-
terpretation,taken literally, would bring nearly every project in
the Commonwealth within the jurisdiction of the Act. That inter-
pretation would also make.administration of the Act extremely
difficult for every Conservation Commission ....-Tbe _Department does
not believe that the Legislature ever intended or contemplated
such a result.
All of this is not to say that the problem you identified is
not real. I would suggest, that it is within the authority of the
Planning Board. in granting subdivision approval, to consider run-
off effects. An alternative would for the -Town to re-examine and
Or '
perhaps change the Town drainage. pe�hap!�- the Trustees of
nt with -the Applicant here.
Reservations can work out an agreeme
In any event, however, a project must meet the initial threshold
test of being within the jurisdiction of the Wetlands Protection
Act before a Conservation Commission can look at the consequences
of the work, require a Notice of Intent, or take any other steps
under the authority of the Act.
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I hope that you find this useful. If you would like to discuss
the matter further, please feel free to call me or write to me again.
TBP/em
cc: James Colman
William St. Hilaire
Sincerely,
U'nW4 V. Pe")Z�4s
Thomas B. Powers
Deputy General Counsel
ADril. 12, 1979
Mr. Thomas B. Powers
Deputy General Counsel
Department of Environmental
Quality Engineering
100 Cambridge Street - Room 1901
Boston, MassachLisetts 02202
RE- �Quall R North Andover - Request for Determination
Dear Mr.
The North Andover Conservation Co�Ilfflqission is in receipt of a
Request fo�r Determination, under the Wetlands Protection Act, for
a Proposed subilvision in Noi,th Andover. There apupeavrs to be no
wetland areas" within tlie subdivisjoy, 14 -s -L
that the 3t0r"'rwater drainage System be d" elf, but it is proposed
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Portion" of the Town drainaage sys�ejn. irectly connected to a
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At the Point Of connection the applicant has based his design
on a 1 in 25 year runoff event, and a-11 flows equal to or greater
than this magnitude will be "backed -up" into an'adjalcent on,7site
detention area. Thus, in accordance with this design there will be
no increase in the rate of runoff at the point of connection with
the Town drainage system for the 1 in 21-- year event, But, there will',
be an increase in the rate of runoff for- the more frequent events -
less than 1 in 25 years - and, Perhaps more importantly, an increase
in the total volume of runoff at thi"s point, and subsequently down-
stream, for all runoff events. These conclusions were based on
information and calculations supp'lied by the applicant to the Conser-
vation Commission and the Planning Board.
The Town drainage, after a distance, discharges on land belonging
to the Trustees of Reservations. The regional supervisor, in a
letter to the Conservation Commission, has suggested that "If more
water were to be diverted onto our property, we feel that we would
lose the agricultural potential of this field as well as having it
negatively effect Our woodland.
TO: Mr. T.B. Powers, DEQE
RE: Quail Run - North Andover
Page Two
FROM: Conservation Commission
DATE: April 12, 1979
Therefore, based on the details that I have supplied above,
the North Andover Conservation Commission wishes to request a
legal opinion as to whether the applicant, under the conditions
outlined above, should be required to submit a Notice of Intent;
or perhaps you might recommend another course of action.
A copy of this letter is being forwarded to the applicant scy"
that he may ppoviLlIe any Infor-mation which he feels is necessary
In order to make a proper jud,,,rnent or to correct any errors in
the information I have provided. If he does supply co-jiments, I
request that they be in and that a copy be fo-"Warded to3
the North Andover Conservation Commission.
sUao, the Comimission wishes to renu--,-,t th-:�.t response to this
question be forwarded so as to be received before April 25, 1979.
Realizing that this reply date -is presuraptuous on our part, we feel
that given the fact that this matter has been delayed we rpust make
this request.
Thank you for any consideration Siven to his matter.
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Very tvu.Ly yours,,
Vincent S. Turano, Ph -D,
Chairman
VST/dlp
cc: Landsail Inc.
Mr. Coleman, Director
Division of Wetlands
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April 12, 1979
Ms. Judy Pickett
C.onservation Law Foundation
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3 JOY S40J
Boston,,
RE- Quatl Run, North Andover, MA Request for Determination
Dear'Vs. Pickett:
The North Andover Conservation Commission is in receipt of a
Request for Determina"Uion, under the Wetlands Protection Act,, for
a proposed subdivision 1.n North Andover. There appears to be no
11wetland areas'! tiil-hin the -nub.,11vigion Itself. but JI -t. is proposed
that the storilliviater drainage, system be directly connected to a
portIon of the Town drainaCe system.
At the point of connection the applicant has based his design
on a 1 in 25 year runoff event, and all flows equal to or greater
than this magnitude will be "backed -up" into an adjacent onsite
detention area. Thus, in accordance with this design there will be
no increase In the rate of runoff at the point of connection with
the Town drainage Gystem for the 1 in 25 year event. But, there will
be an increase in the rate of runoff for the more freauent events -
less than 1 in 25 years - and, perhaps more importantly, an increase
in the total volume of runoff at this point, and subsequently down-
stream, for all runoff events. These conclusions were based on
information and calculations supplied by the applicant to the
Conservation Commission and the Planning Board.
The Town drainage, after a distance, discharges on land belonging
to the Trustee of Reservations. The regional supervisor, in a
letter to the Conservation Commission, has suggested that "If more
water were to be diverted onto our property, we feel that we would
lose the agricultural potential of this field as well as having it
negatively effect our woodland.
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TO: Ms. J. Pickett, CLF
RE: Quail Run, RfDeterm.
North Andover
FROM: Conservation Commission
DATE: April 12., 1979
Therefore. based on the details that I have supplied above,
the North Andover Conservation Coimmission wishes to request a
legal opinion as to whether the applicant, under the conditions
outlined above, should be required to submit a Notice of Intent;
or perhaps you might recommend another course of action.
Also, the Commission wishes
this question be forwarded so as
1979. Realizing, that this reply
we feel IV -hat given the 4"'act that
must make this request.
to request that a response to
to be received before April 25,
date is presumptuous on.our part,,
this matter has been delayed we
Thank You for any conzideration E;iven to t1his matter.
VST/d'Lp
Very truly yours,
Vincent S. Turano, Ph.D.
Chairman
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Mr. JohR T. WiLlis
North Andover Town Counsel
160 Pleasant Street
North Andover, MA 01845
RE: Quail rRun,'Xorth Andover -
Dear Mr. Willis:
April 12, 1979
Reque,st fo.- Determination
The North Anoover Conservation Commission Is in receipt of a
Request for Determination, �Inder the Wetlands Protection Act ., for
a proposed 3ubdivisil-In in North Andover. Thcre appe(n.Ars to be no
lilletland arcas?, within the sub(1f.vision its(.:�11 but it is proposed
that the stormwater drainage system be directly connected to a
11 portion" of 4L*,he Town drainage, system.
At the point of connection the applicant has based his design
on a 1 in 25 year runoff event, and all flows equal to or greater
than this magnitude will be "backed -up" into an adjacent onsite
detention area. Thus,, 4j-.-. accordance with this desig;n there will be
no increase in the rate of runoff at the point of connection with
the Town drainage system for the 1 in 25 year event. But, there will
be an increase in the rate of runoff for the more frequent events -
less than 1 in 25 years - and, perhaps more importantly, an increase
in the total volume of runoff at this point, and subsequently down-
stream,, for allrunoff events. These conclusinns were based on
information and calculations supplied by the applicant to the
Conservation Commission and the Planning Board.
The Town drainage, after a distance, discharges on land belonging
to the Trustees of Reservations. The regional supervisor, in a
letter to the Conservation Commission, has suggested that "If more
water were to be diverted onto our property, we feel that we would
lose the agricultural potential of this field as well as having it
negatively effect our woodland.
TO: Mr. J.T. Willis,, Town Counsel FROM: N.A. Conservation Commission
RE: Quail Run, Req. for Determination DATE: April 12, 1979
Therefore., based on the details that I have supplied above,
the North Andover Cohservation Commission wishes to request a
legal opinion as to whether the applicant, under the conditions
outlined above, should be required to submit a Notice of Intenlv-;
or perhaps you night recorLaend another course of action.
Also, The Comm.ission wishes to request that a response to
this question be 'Lon-,Yardc-'-AI so as to be received before April 25,'
1979. Realizin- that this reply date is presumptuous on our
part, we feel that given the fact, that this matter has been delayed
we must make this request.
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1hank you -j"or any con3lderation given to this matter,
Very truly yours,
Vincent S. Turano., Ph.D.
Chairman
VST/dI.-
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lee US"'tts
The Trustees
of Reservations
224 Adams Street
Milton
Massachusetts
02186
Telephone
617-698-2066
Officers
Charles E. Mason, Jr
President
John M. Woolsey, Jr.
Vice President
Henry R. Guild, Jr.
Secretary
H. Gilman Nichols
Treasurer
Standing Committee
Theodore Chase,
Chairman, Dover
Paul Brooks,
Lincoln
Mrs. David C. Forbes,
Sherborn
Henry R. Guild, Jr.,
Dover
John Hay,
Brewster
Peter L. Hornbeck,
North Andover
John W. Kimball,
Andover
Robert Livermore, Jr.,
Beverly
Charles P. Lyman,
Canton
Charles E. Mason, Jr.,
Chestnut Hill
H. Gilman Nichols,
Essex
Mrs. Robert G. Potter,
Edgartown
Andrew J. W. Scheffey,
Leverett
Mrs. William C. Wigglesworth
Ipswich
Laurence M. Charming
Counsel, Boston
Administration
Gordon Abbott, Jr.
Director
Garret F. VanWart
Deputy Director
John C. Marksbury
Projects Officer
The Trustees of Reservations
is a privately -administered,
charitable corporation,
founded for conservation
purposes in 1891 to preserve
for the public, places of
natural beauty and
historic interest within
the Commonwealth of
Massachusetts.
Contributions are
deductible under Federal
income tax law.
April 4, 1979
North Andover Conservation Commission
Town Building
Main Street
North Andover, Massachusetts 01845
Gentlemeni
It has come to the attention of The Trustees of
Reservations, the owners of the Stevens -Coolidge
Place, that plans are being -formulated that may
cause an increase in the amount of water on one
portion of our property. The portion of land that
I am referring to is bordered by Chestnutt Andover
and Oak Streets. The land is made up of woodland
and fields with one of the fields being used- for
agriculture. At the present time this particular
field does not dry up until early summer. If more
water were to be diverted onto our propertyp we
feel that we would lose the agriculture potential
of this field as well as having it negatively effect
our woodland. In both Instances we feel that an
unfair and undue hardship will be placed upon our
property. We, ther6foret must object to any plans
that would allow this to occur and ask the Conserva-
tion Commission to help us protect our property and
our rights.
We would be
Commission,
developer to
solution for
happy to
the Town
try and
all Dar
Sincerely yours,
Wayne N. Mitton
Regional Supervisor
work with the
of North Andov
come up with a
ties.
ect Steve McMahon
Superintendent
Stevens -Coolidge Place
The Trustees
224 Adams St.
Milton, Mass.
of Reservations
02186
Conservation
er and the
workable
ABUTTORS LIST
HANSON PROPERTY
Tlatley management
P.O. Box 226
Braintree, MA 02184
Avis C. Comstock
39 Rosedale Avenue
North Andover, MA 01845
Anita Fionte
82 Longwood Avenue
North Andover, MA 01845
John B. & Elizabeth W. Harriman
231 Chestnut Street
North Andover, MA 01845
Richard J. Picard
George A. & Helen Camuso
45 Chestnut Court
North Andover, MA 01845
Francis E. Jr. & Barbara T. Ryan
25 Chestnut Court
North Andover, MA 01845
Alan D. & Dorothy E. Williams
a55 Chestnut Street
North Andover, YIA 01845
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April 2. 1979
Planning Board
North Andover Town Hall
North Andover, Massachusetts 01845
RE: Quail Run
Dear Sirs and Madam:
At the March 31, 1979 meeting of the North Andover Conservation
Commission the Commission received and reviewed the drainage details
and related calculations associated with the above referenced subdi-
vision, with Mr. Frank Gelinas, the applicant's engineer. Based on'
the submitted subdivision plans and proposed drainage changes the
North Andover Conservation Commis sion wishes to make -the following
recommendations:
1. An additional outfall and associated headwall be provided
'between Lots 8 (eight) and 9 (nine). The Commission feels
this will aid in attenuating and dissipating any increase
in runoff from the entire s*ite. According to Mr. Gelinas
this proposal is in line with the Highway Surveyor's
.-suggestions.
2. In order to address the problem of an increased rate and
volume of runoff from the s * ite , particularly in the vicinity
of Lots 5 (five) and.6 (six), a retention storage area be
established on Lots 5 (five) and�_o_r__6 _(six)_.Th17s ould
entail only a minor change in control details as suggested
in the submitted plans the Commission reviewed with Mr.
Gelinas.
3.- Since the drainage design was based on a one -in -twenty-five
-(25) year rainfall event., then appropriate changes be in-
vestigated to handle the increased volume and rate of run-
off of the niore frequent event. Again it appears only minor
chan ges need be incorporated in the submitted plans in order
to achieve this objective.
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TO: Planning Board -2- FROM: Conservation Commission
RE: Quail Run
DATE: April 2, 1979
4. The drainage system associated with this subdivision
not be directly connected to Town drainage along Chestnut
Street. The Commission feels that such a connection
may result in increases in runoff which are not necessary
or warranted if the recommendations Outlined above are
incorporated in the plans.
If the Planning Board wishes to meet to discuss these recom-
mendations, or has any questions, Please do not hesitate to contact
the Conservation Commission.
For the Conservation Commission,
Vincent S. Turano, Ph -D.3 Chairman
VST/dlp
cc: Highway Surveyor
Land Sail Inc.,.C/o Frank Gelinas
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Planning Board
North Andover Town Hall
North Andover, Massachusetts
RE: (Quail Run
Dear Sirs and Madam
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At the March 31, 1979 meeting of the Llorth Andover Conservation
Commission the Commission received and reviewed the drainage details
and related calculations associated with the above referenced subdi-
vision, with Mr. Frank Gelinas, the applicant's engineer. Based on
the submitted subdivision plans and proposed drainage changes the
North Andover Conservation Commisoion wishes to make the following
recor=endations:
1. An additional outfall and associated headwall be provided
between Lots 8 (eight) and 9 (nine). The Commission feels
this will aid in attenuating and dissipating any increase
in runoff from the entire site. According to Mr. Gelinas
this proposal is in line with the Highway Surveyor's
suggestions. -
2. In order to address the problem of an increased rate and
volume of runoff from the site, particularly in the vicinity
of Lots 5 (five) and 6 (six), a retention storag!�.area be
established on Lots 5 (five) and/or 6__(s:fx)_. This would
entail only a minor change in control details as suggested
in the submitted plans the Commission reviewed with Mr.
Gelinas.
3. Since the drainage design was based on a one -in -twenty-five
(25) year rainfall event, then appropriate changes be in-
vestigated to handle the increased volume and rate of run-
off of the more frequent event. Again it appears only minor
changes need be incorporated in the submitted plans in order
to achieve this objective.
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TO: Planning Board
RE: Quail Run
-2- FROM: Conservation Commission
DATE: April 2, 1979
4. The drainage system associated with this subdivision
not be directly connected to Town drainage along Chestnut
Street. The Commission feels that such a connection
may result in increases in runoff which are not necessary
or warranted if the recommendations outlined above are
incorporated in the plans.
If the Planning Board wishes to meet to d:L-scuss these recom-
mendations, or has any questions, please do not hesitate to contact
the Conservation Commission.
For the Conservation Commission,
Vincent S. Turano, Ph.D., Chairman
VST/dlp
cc: Highway Surveyor
Land Sail Inc., c/o Frank Gelinas
January 9, 1979
Mr. John Tuttle, Exec. V.P.
LANDSAIL, INC.
292 Beacon Street
Boston, Mass.
Dear Mr. Tuttle:
In reference to our letter to you of December 22, 1978,
I would like to apologize for the error made and correct the
sentence to read as follows:
"the Conservation Commission cannot make a determination
as to the applicability of G.L.C. 131 s.40 and its effect
on the statutory values within the watershed, without a
definitive drainage plan."
Again, sorry for the error in my previous letter.
Sincere&y yours,
George B. Stern
Member
GBS/meb
December 22, 1978
Mr. John Tuttle, Exec. V.P.
LANDSAIL, INC.
292 Beacon Street
Boston, Mass.
Dear Mr. Tuttle:
In reference to your request for determination dated
December 16, 1978, the Conservation Commission cannot make
a determination as to the applicability of G.LLC. 131 s-40
and its effect on the statutory values within the watershed,
without a definitive(determinatio� plan. As soon as this
is submitted to us we will render a determination within
21 days.
Sincer&ly yours,
George B. Stern
Member
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December 22, 1978
11r. John Tuttle, Exec. V.P.
LANDSAIL, INC.
292 Beacon Street
Boston, Mass.
T Mr. Tuttle:
)ear
In reference to your request for determination dated
December 16, 1978, the Conservation Commission cannot make
a determination as to the applicability of G.L * C. 131 s�40
and its effect on the statutory values within the watershed,
without a definitive determination plan. As soon as this
is submitted to us we will render a determination within
21 days.
GBS/meb
Sincerely yours,
George B. Stern
Member
FORM I
COHHONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS
F.
G.L.,C. 131 a. 40
REQuEsT To DETERMINE APPLICABILITY OF THE WEILAND PROTECTION ACT
the undersigneds hereby request that the North Andover Conservation Comm.
(name of Conservation Commission)
make a determination as to whether or not * the Act is applicable to the area, or work
to be performed . on said areat'a description of which is submitted herewith and made
a part of this request.
2. The name (s) #and address (es) of the owner (a) of the area are:
V
Helen Louise Hanson
369 -South Lake Drive
Palm Beach, Florida
3.- 1 hereby certify that all abutters (attached list) to the area described above which
is subject to this written request, and the owner, if not the person making the request�
have been notified that a determination is.being requested of..the-cousermation Commission
-under the Act.
4. 1 have filed a copy of -this request w * ith the appropriate regional office of the
Massachusetts Department of Environmental Quality Engineering, (see map for regions and
addresses).
Northeast x Soiltheast Central Western
5. Is the area subj ect, to this request in, or within 100 feet of: a) coastal dune no
coastal bank no coastal beach no salt marsh no land under the ocean
a salt pond no anadromous/catadromous f ish- run,no do not know
Sienature
John Tuttle? Exec..V.P.
LANDSAIL, INC., 292.Beacon.St.� Bostong Mass.
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Landsail, Inc.
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FRANK C. GELINAS
REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER
REGISTERED LAND SURVEYOR
NORTH ANDOVER OFFICE PARK
451 ANDOVER STREET
NORTH ANDOVER, MASS. 01845
TELEPHONE 687-1463
December 6, 1978
North Andover Conservation Commission
North Andover Town Hall
Main Street
North Andover, MA 01845
Dear Conservation Commission Members:
Enclosed please find the original of a "Request to Determine
Applicability to the Wetlands Protection Act" for a parcel of
land located on Chestnut Street, North Andover, Massachusetts.
Also enclosed is a list of abuttors to the said parcel.
Please be advised that the necessary information has been
furnished to the Department of Environmental Quality Engineering
in Tewksbury, Massachusetts. Also all the abuttors have been
notified of this request via certified mail.
If I can assist you further in this matter, please do not
hesitate to contact this office.
Yours truly,
Frank C. Gelinas
Registered Professional Engineer
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