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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1996-01-24 Conservation Commission Minutes North Andover Conservation Commission January 24, 1996 Senior Citizens' Center 7: 00 P.M. PRESENT: George L. Reich Joseph Lynch Albert P. Manzi, Jr. Robert L. Mansour Deborah Feltovic Joseph M. Mottola Scott L. Masse STAFF: Michael D. Howard Donna Mae D'Agata Julie A. Parrino Chairman Reich called the meeting to order at 7: 00 P.M. MINUTES Minutes of January 17, 1996 No action. NEW BUSINESS 242-709, Discussion, Kevin Spicer, 677 Salem Street M. Howard stated he issued an Enforcement Order January 18, 1996 to the Department of Public Works (DPW) for drainage maintenance; excavate "ditch" and locate 1011- 12" pipes. M. Howard stated he met with the DPW and located a 12" PVC pipe and an 8" PVC pipe. These pipes were not picked up prior to this visit. M. Howard presented photos, dated 1980, to the commission along with a plan of the land for Lot 4 Abbott Street. M. Howard stated he feels that a 30" pipe never existed. George Perna, Director of Public Works stated the flow rate of the 8" pipe is 1.75 cubic feet per second (c.f.s. ) and the flow rate of the 10" pipe is 1. 18 c. f.s. A 12" pipe was installed 2" above the top of the 8" pipe. The flow was increased, adding another . 31 c. f.s. The DPW helped correct the flooding condition in the area. The flow was never reduced. J. Lynch asked about the elevation of the former pipe. George Perna stated the elevation is essentially the same. The problem is not the pipe, it is the area just above it. J. Lynch asked if the 8" pipe appeared to be flowing. M. Howard stated the 8" pipe is ponded up inside; the 12" is flowing. George Perna stated the DPW uses a Jet Rodder in the spring to clear pipes. The photos were reviewed. There appears to be an obstruction in the pipe. A. Manzi asked about the pavement cut. George Perna stated an additional cut was done last year. A. Manzi stated he travels that road and recalls hitting a speed bump. George Perna stated that road was paved. A. Manzi stated he like DPW to put in one good size pipe to prevent ponding on the northern side. J. Lynch stated North Andover Conservation Commission 2 January 24, 1996 the problem on the north side affects the septic system. George Perna stated that is a Conservation issue. George Perna stated there is no question that the pipe needs to be cleaned. A. Manzi asked if a 2011 pipe could go in there. The elevation of the proposed pipe was discussed. George Perna stated the 1211 pipe was only there as an overflow. R. Mansour stated that the beginning of the pipe is plastic, the center is corrugated and the end is plastic. George Perna stated the flow in that area was increased not decreased. R. Mansour asked if a dam effect was created. George Perna stated it is apparent the pipe is not clear in the middle. R. Mansour asked if the DPW had to wait until the spring to clear it as the issue will be compounded with current weather. G. Perna stated that generally that piece of equipment is used in the spring. The best solution is to put an 811 pipe right straight through and that's an expense to dig up. A. Manzi stated he would like problem rectified immediately. George Perna stated the Jet would be done soon. A. Manzi asked about time to change the pipe. George Perna stated emergencies are done on an emergency basis. He would rather wait for the hottop plants to open in the spring. It could be done in the spring when the plants open. George Perna stated he has no desire to change the wetlands and if he has to perform a drainage study he will not do it. A. Manzi stated he wants the two pipes gone and one pipe put in. M. Howard stated the 1211 pipe is working very well. A. Manzi requested a site visit of the sewer line in that area. G. Reich stated the commission could meet and deliberate on that project. Both sites could be visited together. G. Reich asked if the pipe could be cleaned as best as possible as an immediate solution. An Enforcement Order could be issued providing the DPW permission to work in the area. If the pipe collapses then a larger pipe would be put in. George Perna stated he will have the pipe Jet Rodded tomorrow, if the pipe collapses, he proposed the installation of a 1211 pipe. George Perna stated that M. Howard will be notified of the Jet Rodding. The commission discussed the site visit which is scheduled for Saturday, January 27, 1996 at 8: 00 A.M. for the purposes of deliberation. The Abbott sewer site will be viewed. Kevin Spicer provided photos to the commission. Kevin Spicer stated that the water is unbelievable there. The water is coming onto his property and he may lose his septic. A. Manzi stated that a house was built next to his property about five years ago. Kevin Spicer stated that house has been there about ten years. G. Reich stated the pipe needs to be cleaned immediately and the commission will view this site Saturday. North Andover Conservation Commission 3 January 24, 1996 An abutter stated that a larger pipe had previiously existed in this location and facilitated the drainage. The 811 pipe inside the 1011 pipe was discussed again with George Perna and the abutters. The abutter asked why the pipe was altered. George Perna stated that the section of road was sinking and had to be repaired. The abutter stated he now gets water in his cellar. In 1987, the pipe handled the water well. M. Howard stated many factors played into this since 1987 . A. Manzi stated that it is best to make the decision regarding the pipe at the site visit. George Perna stated he would attend the site visit. 242-751, Amend Order of Conditions, Items #37 & 39, AT&T, 1600 Osgood Street M. Howard addressed the commission. He stated two amendments are to be made to the Order of Conditions. Specifically, Items #37 and #39• Pete Bajor of AT&T requested that Item #37 references the use of sod, and that Item #39 be corrected as it contains a typo in the numbering. The commission discussed the use of sod. M. Howard stated that there is a botanist assigned to the loaming and seeding. The commission stated that the loaming and seeding is to be done to the satisfaction of the administrator. Motion by A. Manzi to amend Item #37 to reference loaming and seeding according to SCS standards with "sod" as approved by the Conservation Administrator, second by R. Mansour. Vote: 7-0-0. Motion by J. Lynch to amend Item #39 to reference #34, 35, and 36 versus 35, 36, and 37, second by D. Feltovic. Vote: 7-0-0. The commission stated that no Certificate of Compliance shall be issued until Item #37 is approved by the Conservation Administrator. Discussion.--Checklist for As-builts and Certificates for Compliance M. Howard addressed the commission and stated that a generic letter is to be sent to local engineers. G. Reich stated that a checklist could be sent rather that a letter. M. Howard read the proposed checklist. A. Manzi stated that the Order of Conditions is issued to the applicant not the engineer, and it is the responsibility of the applicant to comply with the Order. A. Manzi is in favor of the checklist. J. Lynch suggested attaching it to the Order. A. Manzi suggested it be part of the order. S. Masse stated the checklist should state that the commission reserves the right to require further information. North Andover Conservation Commission 4 January 24, 1996 PUBLIC HEARINGS 242-786 21 Fuller Meadow Road James T. Paluch James Paluch is present, Scott L. Giles, the applicant's representative is not present. The commission will hear this matter when Mr. Giles arrives. 242- . 52_, 110 & 130 Sutton Hill Road, Lots Nos. 31A, 32A & 33A Ben Osgood, Jr. displayed a plan before the commission. The applicant is requesting to do regrading within the buffer zone of a bordering vegetated wetland. Mr. Osgood stated the four lots are between Sandra Lane and Sutton Hill Road. The four lots were permitted around 1984-1985. There is no work within the buffer zone other than the sewer. In the process of installing the sewer line, an area was disturbed. The edge of the buffer zone need to be regraded. The wetlands line was relocated. The proposal is to regrade and return it to original topography before any other development takes place on this site. M. Howard stated he relocated Wetland Flags #7, 6, 8, 5 and 4. He stated the snow continues to melt, the line has not been confirmed. This site is in the watershed. Mr. Osgood stated that restoration will be mulch with wood chips. The wetland line confirmation and Planning Board action is still needed for this project. J. Lynch stated he has a problem with Lot 29B, which is not part of this filing. M. Howard recommends continuance of this hearing. Motion by J. Lynch to Continue to February 7, 1995 for confirmation of wetland line and DEP comments, second by D. Feltovic. Vote: 7- 0-0. 242- , 50 Sutton Hill Road, Lot No. 30B Sandra Lane Benjamin Osgood, Jr. addressed the commission. The plan reflects Lots 28B, 32A and 31A all outside the buffer zone. Lot 30B is within the buffer zone of a bordering vegetated wetland. In order to construct the proposed grade within 75 ' of the wetlands, the lawn will be 3 ' higher than the woods. All houses are on town sewer. Roof drains and driveway runoff caluclations will be provided. The drywell is in the buffer zone. R. Mansour stated the plan states the topo plan is dated 1973 . The commission discussed the plan. Mr. Osgood stated there is a possibility of a small topo being done. J. Lynch stated that there is an existing Order on this property that has not yet been satisfied. Mr. Osgood stated that he does not believe there are North Andover Conservation Commission 5 January 24, 1996 any Orders on this site. The frontage of this site is on Sandra Lane, the driveway is on Glen Road. Motion by J. Lynch to Continue to February 7, 1996 for the wetland line determination and DEP comments, second by S. Masse. Vote: 7- 0-0. 242-786 21 Fuller Meadow Road James T. Paluch Mr. James Paluch and Mr. Scott Giles are present. This hearing was continued from the January 17, 1996 meeting. At that hearing the commission requested verification of the pool location, the flood plan and data on environmentally safe chemicals. Mr. Paluch provided the commission with data regarding environmentally safe pool chemicals. Mr. Giles provided the commission with verification of the flood plain and a revised plan of the pool location. The plan shows the pool apron to be 5' wide. A waiver of the 50' no-build zone is requested. J. Lynch stated that any deviation from that size apron will be in violation. M. Howard stated the seasonal water tables are 16" to 20" . Dewatering is to be approved. The chlorine treatment was discussed and G. Reich requests the treatment be written into the Order. A. Manzi stated he is concerned with the water table. The pool is to have a depth of 81 . J. Lynch stated the dewatering plan is to be conditioned. A lengthy discussion ensued regarding the water table and the dewatering. A. Manzi stated the dewatering is the most important issue facing the homeowner. The commission stressed the importance of the dewatering to Mr. Paluch. M. Howard explained to Mr. Paluch the procedure of the Order of Conditions. J. Parrino suggested a wall be placed at the 25 ' no-cut zone after restoration. Motion by J. Lynch to Close the Public Hearing and Issue an Order of Conditions within 21 days, second by J. Mottola. Vote: 7-0-0. 242_-784, Abbott Village Estates, North Andover Land Corporation Peter Ogren of Hayes Engineering is present representing North Andover Land Corporation (Osgood, St. Hillaire, Millet and Cormier) . Attorney Howard Speicer addressed the commission and gave the legal history of the subdivision and the former Conservation filing. Peter Ogren discussed the plan. Nutmeg Lane is to be developed between Abbott Street and Salem Street. Nutmeg Lane is 1,820 feet in length. Perriwinkle Lane is a cul-de-sac off Nutmeg Lane and is 280 ' in length. A sewer line is to service the subdivision. The sewer is from Northcross Road up Abbott Street, northwest to Nutmeg and Perriwinkle. The roadway alignment is the same as the prior filing. The prior filing was for 50 lots. This filing is for 44 lots. The former Order is dated December, 1987. The hydraulic design is the same as it was then. Storage areas are North Andover Conservation Commission 6 January 24, 1996 indicated on the plan. Hydraulic calcs TR20 and TR55. The federal government has changed from Type 2 storm to Type 3 storm. The rainfall period has changed. BVW activities include several crossings disturbing over 7, 000 s. f. The replication plan calls for 1: 1. Mr. Ogren stated he has met with M. Howard regarding these plans and M. Howard has walked the site. The plan was discussed in detail. Soils was discussed. J. Lynch stated he has a problem with crossings at Nutmeg Lane. J. Lynch asked if Abbott Street frontage is part of the larger tract. Mr. Ogren stated no they are not connected. Mr. Ogren stated the plan before the commission is an approved plan by the Planning Board. G. Reich stated this is a new filing and the former filing has no effect on this file. Mr. Ogren stated the topography has recently been flown by Neve Associates. The soils information is July- September of 1995. The drainage is like it was before. The crossing on Abbott Street at Salem Street is disagreeable to J. Lynch. G. Reich stated the Public Hearing should be closed. G. Reich preferred one wetland crossing for the roadway. J. Lynch stated Nutmeg Lane is a problem. J. Lynch stated the wetland alteration is 7, 180 s. f. G. Reich stated the maximum alteration allowed is 5, 000 s. f. Lengthy discussion regarding Planning Board issues and Conservation issues. G. Reich suggests two cul-de-sacs to avoid a crossing. M. Howard stated Nutmeg Lane is likely a Limited Project. M. Howard stated he has a problem with Thistle Road. J. Lynch stated he has concerns with the drainage on this project. Mr. Ogren stated the only change in TR 20 and TR 55 is the type of storm, from the hydraulic standpoint. R. Mansour stated there are three road crossings and two driveway crossings. He suggests eliminating two driveway crossings and sacrifice three house lots. G. Reich asked if the developer could possibly get around some of the wetlands. Mr. Ogren stated that is not feasible. M. Howard stated the wetland line was approved in 1991. Mr. Ogren stated they will be filing with the Planning Board for the common driveway on Lots 18 and 19. M.' Howard asked how many waivers of the no-build zone are they requesting. Mr. Ogren stated 'only at the crossings' . There will be no waivers except at the crossings. Lot 42 Thistle Road is not a crossing. Lots 41 and 42 are within the 25 ' no-build-zone. M. Howard stated the wetland replication is 1: 1, he requests 2 : 1. G. Reich concurs. J. Lynch stated the replication area at Salem Street is in the back of someone's yard. North Andover Conservation Commission 7 January 24, 1996 Mr. Ogren stated the filing before the commission is for houses, driveways, streets, it is a complete filing. Discussion continued. Any house lot changes should be conditioned in the Order of Conditions. The commission does not want common driveways. J. Lynch stated he has little concern with Thistle Road, his concern is with Nutmeg Lane crossings. G. Reich stated the commission does not yet know where the line is. The line on the plan is five years old. M. Howard stated he could get a handle on the line within two weeks if the weather works with him. The applicant is to provide: 1) Wetland confirmation; 2) Modify wetland replication; 3) File with Planning Board for common driveways for cul-de-sacs off of Abbott Street and Salem Street; 4) Perform drainage calculations; 5) Modify roadway alignment for Thistle Road; 6) Eliminate common driveways involving wetland alterations; and 7) Evaluate adjacent properties for flooding. The commission feels the current plan is not suitable. An abutter of 643 Salem Street stated the water flows from the project onto her land. She wants her property looked at. She presented photos to the commission. Motion to continue to February 7, 1996, second by R. Mansour. Vote: 6-0-0. A. Manzi left the meeting at approximately 9:45 P.M. NEW BUSINESS Discussion: Expenditure Filing Fees Conservation Associate Compensation M. Howard addressed the commission. He stated that Julie Parrino has accepted the part-time Conservation Administrator' s job in the town of Boxford and would be continuing to work with North Andover's Conservation Commission as their associate. Julie will continue to attend the commission meetings and M. Howard recommends she be paid for attending. The commission agreed. Conservation Office Computer M. Howard addressed the commission. He received three bids for the computer for his office. He recommends the low bid of $3, 732 from the filing fee account for the purchase of a Micron P133 Millenia computer. Motion by R. Mansour to grant the expenditure of $3,732 for the computer, second by D. Feltovic. Vote: 6-0-0. North Andover Conservation Commission 8 January 24, 1996 Conservation Office File Cabinet M. Howard addressed the commission. He received three bids for a four-drawer file cabinet with lock. He recommends the low bid of $160.00 for the Anderson Hickey four-drawer file cabinet. Motion by J. Lynch to grant the expenditure of $160.00 from the filing fee account for the file cabinet, second by D. Feltovic. Vote: 6-0-0. Conservation Office MACC Regulations M. Howard addressed the commission. He recommends the purchase of ' Environmental Handbooks and Wetland Regulations from the Mass. Association of Conservation Commissioners. Motion by J. Lynch to grant the expenditure of $60. 00 from the filing fee account for Environmental Handbooks and Wetland Regulations, second by D. Feltovic. Vote: 6-0-0. New Hampshire Assoc. of Wetland Scientists, 6th Annual Conference M. Howard addressed the commission. He recommends Julie Parrino attend the 6th Annual Conference on February 10, 1996. Motion by R. Mansour to grant the expenditure of $60. 00 for Julie Parrino to attend the conference, second by D. Feltovic. Vote: 6- 0-0. DECISIONS 242-786 21 Fuller Meadow Road M. Howard to draft Order of Conditions. BITEWALR Abbott Village Estates site walk scheduled for Saturday, January 27, 1996 at 8:00 A.M. Motion by J),,. Feltovic to adjourn at 10: 50 A.M. , second by J. Lynch. Vote: 6- -0. Georg L. Reich, Chairman