HomeMy WebLinkAbout1995-11-01 Conservation Commission Minutes . North Andover Conservation Commission
November 1 1995
Senior Citizens' Center
7 00 P M
PRESENT George L Reich Joseph W Lynch
Albert Manzi Jr Robert Mansour
Deborah Feltovic
STAFF Michael D Howard Donna Mae D'Agata
Chairman Reich called the meeting to order at 7 00 P M
MINUTES
Minutes of September 20, 1995
No action
Minutes of October 18 1995
Motion by A Manzi to accept the minutes of October 18 1995
second by R Mansour Vote 4-0-0 D Feltovic not present
D Feltovic arrived at 7 05 P M
OLD BUSINESS
Philip Christiansen, Discussion
G Reich informed the commission that Mr Christiansen requested
the discussion be continued to the next meeting due to personal
matters G Reich stated that the commission voted at the last
meeting to issue a written complaint to the licensing board against
the engineer G Reich stated that the letter is to be held off
until the engineer can be present for discussion with the
commission G Reich stated that he wanted to send a letter to all
engineers that when their stamp is placed on a plan, the plan is to
be an accurate as-built J Lynch disagrees R Mansour stated
the issues should be taken case by case R Mansour suggests an
Executive Session be held with respect to the discussion with the
engineer A Manzi stated the matter affects the credibility of
the person and should be discussed in Executive Session with the
client present G Reich stated that all proposed and as-built
plans must show underground utilities and it should be spelled out
in the Order
The commission discussed the Executive Session and decided that it
could be held at 6 30 P M A Manzi stated he will not be
available for the meeting on November 15 1995 as he will be out of
state He stated he would be available for the December 6 1995
. meeting and would like to attend the Executive Session The
commission agreed to have the Executive Session on December 6 1995
at 6 30 P M
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NEW BUSINESS
242-719, Lot 3 Candlestick Road, Certificate of Compliance
M Howard addressed the commission The applicant, Joseph
Barbagallo Jr was present Revised as-built plans dated October
31 1995 were reviewed by the commission The utility trench
clearing and landscape wall are shown on the plan There is a
manicured lawn in the area of the underground utilities A Manzi
suggests allowing ground cover to grow naturally without mowing
M Howard stated the site is stable M Howard stated he pulled a
tape in the field and there is 17 ' from the haybale to flag A2
Motion by A Manzi to Issue the Certificate of Compliance second
by R Mansour J Lynch stated the plan is not right although the
site is The secondary line of haybales is not shown on the plan
M Howard stated only the second haybale is not shown on the plan
Motion by A Manzi to Amend the Motion to Issue the Certificate of
Compliance upon receipt of an additional as-built plan noting the
administrator's field notes showing 17 ' to limit of disturbance
second by J Lynch Plan is to be Revised Plan No 4 Vote 5-0-
0
R Mansour asked if the plan is not submitted to the conservation
office how would that effect the applicant A Manzi stated the
house has been sold M Howard stated the site not in violation
Robert Bailey, Discussion
Mr Robert Bailey addressed the commission with respect to property
he believes to be wetlands This site is behind the Den Rock
Subdivision
Mr Bailey stated 8 lots have been sold from the subdivision
Nineteen acres are remaining and those acres are wetlands The
site is behind Halifax He is seeking a letter from the commission
stating the site is unbuildable in order to obtain an abatement
from the Town Assessor The land is not landlocked, access can be
gained by a street
G Reich stated Mr Bailey could file for a Request for
Determination If the request is positive he could file for an
abatement in January
Mr Bailey stated the Den Rock Subdivision plan came before the
commission Mr Patrick Seekamp of Wetlands Preservation stated
that the delineation for this subdivision was done up to Halifax
Street the site in question was not delineated It is in the
Shawsheen floodplain R Mansour stated that if the site is
wetlands Mr Bailey could deed it to the town A Manzi stated the
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site would have to be delineated A Manzi stated Mr Bailey
should file for a Request for Determination if the determination
is positive, Mr Bailey could file for Recreational Use and obtain
an abatement from the Assessor's Office G Reich stated that Mr
Bailey's other option is to donate the site to the town
242-585 North Andover Estates Extension to Order of Conditions
242-642 , North Andover Heights, Extension to Order of Conditions
Mr Patrick Seekamp of Wetlands Preservation Inc addressed the
commission With him is Mr Dan Bernatas of Toll Brothers The
Order of Conditions (242-585) expires 12/2/95 They are requesting
an Extension to the Order for one year Mr Seekamp stated the
site needs to be stabilized Re-construction is to begin in the
spring
The Order of Conditions (242-642) was issued January 29 1993 and
expires January 29, 1996 Request is made for a one year
extension There are several lots in the buffer zone in the vernal
pool area There are on-going activities and a lot of erosion
The top of the hill is fixed and is re-vegetated There is no
• runoff the soil guard worked The back slope area is not an
issue Mr Seekamp stated he has been monitoring the site during
rain storms The site is stable Lot 24 has been hydroseeded
there is no problem with the lot Lot 12 is under construction
The detention pond is used as sedimentation basin Erosion control
has been upgraded Mr Seekamp expects to do the detention pond
reconstruction in the spring and replicate the area adjacent to the
detention pond He will regrade and remove vegetation The
commission discussed the Wetland Replication Reconstruction Plan
Report prepared for Toll Brothers by Wetlands Preservation, Inc
dated October 6 1995
Mr Seekamp requested a one year extension for both Orders M
Howard stated that a six-month extension would bring the Orders to
June
Mr Seekamp stated that another Extension was requested for Lots 5
and 9 for replication The commission approved a limited project
crossing The fill was 14, 000 s f The replication was 16, 650
s f the actual replication was 15, 153 s f they are shy by 1 497
s f Mr Seekamp stated he sees no value in impacting plants to
gain replication areas that are a challenge
Mr Seekamp stated the there are areas on-site where wetland
replication can be done and he feels it is not appropriate He
asked if the commission would consider another area for
replication He is shy 1,400 s f on site
J Lynch stated he is concerned with the detention pond rebuilding
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time-frame and the storage capacity as the filter is clogging with
siltation Mr Seekamp stated the water came to within 2 ' of
flowing into the pioe during the last storm Sandbags are in place
along the bern the emergency outlet is functional A Manzi
stated that the commission asked Toll Brothers to raise the pipe
and hire an engineexing firm, and that was done M Howard stated
the pipe is a temporary solution Discussion continued regarding
the pipe, berm, sandbags and under-sized detention pond Wetlands
Preservation, Inc is still monitoring the site
The replication on-site is not acceptable to Mr Seekamp He feels
that in order to get compliance they have to deal with replication
on site G Reich questioned whether the original replication plan
was not followed or if the replication shortage is a result of the
replication failinc Mr Seekamp stated that the 1 400 s f were
constructed but failed M Howard stated the hydrology is not
there Mr Seekamp stated there is 15, 153 s f of replication
He is proposing option to provide for what was lost The
replication is better than 1 1 G Reich stated the on-site
replication required is 16 650 s f they have 15 153 s f there
is a deficit of 1 497 s f G Reich polled the commission for
their input
A Manzi prefers on-site replication however, he would have to be
'sold' to have replication off-site
M Howard requested the commission allow him to make the
determination in tte field
J Lynch prefers on-site replication
D Feltovic asked if off-site replication had ever been done
before, M Howard stated not to his knowledge D Feltovic prefers
on-site replication, if possible
R Mansour agrees with A Manzi
G Reich stated a Ma]or Modification would be required for off-site
replication
A Manzi stated he would meet with Mr Seekamp and M Howard on-
site as needed
Motion by R Mansour to Issue the Extension to the Order of
Conditions for 242-585 to June 30 1996 second by D Feltovic
Vote 5-0-0
Motion by R Mansour to Issue the Extension to the Order of
Conditions for 242-642 to June 30 1996 second by D Feltovic
Vote 5-0-0
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242-626, Lots 1 & 2 Great Pond Road, Extension to Order of
Conditions
Mr Thomas E Neve addressed the commission requesting an Extension
to the Order which expires December 10, 1995 The commission
reviewed plans which showed markings by M Howard M Howard
stated that there is dumping occurring on the property Mr Neve
stated that Ms Gonsalves laves in Florida and Mr Matthews lives
in Peabody, Mass He will notify the property owners of the dumping
and advise them to remove the debris The plan is to be modified
showing flagging
Motion by R Mansour to Issue the Extension to the Order of
Conditions for one year from today's date pending receipt of the
modified plan showing the flagging second by A Manzi Vote 5-0-
0
242-477 , Lot 2, 730 Boxford Street, Certificate of Compliance
M Howard addressed the commission and stated that the Order was
issued for the construction of a garage addition to an existing
house in the buffer zone The request is by Mr Robert C Daley
• P E of Merrimack Engineers Mr Stephen Stapinski of Merrimack
Engineers was present The commission reviewed the plan M
Howard stated the site appears to be in order M Howard stated no
as-built plan is required for the certificate only a letter from a
registered professional civil engineer M Howard recommends
compliance
Motion by R Mansour to Issue the Certificate of Compliance second
by A Manzi Vote 5-0-0
242-747 , Lot 11, 863 Dale Street, Certificate of Compliance
Mr Glenn T Saba addressed the commission He presented photos of
the site M Howard stated the 25 ' no-disturbance zone and the 50 '
no-build zone were established under this permit The house is set
back 60 ' from the edge of the wetland An old cart path ran along
the edge of the property it is minimally graded and seeded in the
25 ' no-cut zone Mr Saba stated the cart path was a walkway no
fill was added, just seeding M Howard stated he does not recall
delineating the line M Howard stated the site looks good and
recommends compliance
Motion by A Manzi to Issue the Certificate of Compliance second
by R Mansour Vote 5-0-0
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
Requests for Determination
770 Boxford Street, Rear, Stephen Breen, ggunquit Homes
Mr Thomas Neve was present and addressed the commission Plans
were reviewed and aiscussed M Howard stated the plan submitted
is accurate Mr Neve stated that eventually the property will be
subdivided G Reich stated that this should be a positive
determination M Howard approved the line as shown on the plan
entitled "Plan of Land in N Andover MA prepared for Ogunquit
Homes Inc " dated REV ll/l/95
Motion by J Lynch to Issue a Positive Determination for Wetland
Flags R23 to 162 Orly, on the east side of Mosquito Brook, second
by D Feltovic Vcte 5-0-0
Notices of Intent
242-776, Rte 125, Andover By-Pass, Sandpiper Realty Trust
Mr Stephen Stapinski of Merrimack Engineering Services addressed
the commission Tlis Notice was continued from the October 18
1995 so the administrator could review the wetland line Plans
were reviewed by the commission M Howard stated he approved the
wetland line A39 to end of ditch is accurate The project is a
modification to Meadowood III Subdivision The current owner is
Thomas Laudani and future owner will be Stan Davis The commission
wants all lots to meet the 251no-disturbance zone and the 50 ' no-
build zone
Motion by R Mansour to close the Public Hearing and Issue an Order
of Conditions within 21 days second by D Feltovic Vote 5-0-0
242-778 Lot 5 Lost Pond Lane
242-779 Lot 6 Lost Pond Lane
Mr Steven Saraceno of Neve Associates addressed the commission
The plan shows a common driveway with Lot 6 Steven D'Urso
delineated the site The commission reviewed the plans for Lots 5
and 6 There are underground utilities on-site as noted on the
plan Mr Saraceno stated that the common driveway shown on the
Planning Board Subdivision Plan is incorrect Since it was
discovered Mr Nee has prepared a Modification Plan showing the
driveway location R Mansour recommends continuing for two weeks
so that the plan can be modified or more information can be
provided regarding the common driveway Mr David Kindred stated
• he would like a continuance to the next meeting M Howard stated
the subdivision file for this site is 242-718
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Motion by R Mansour to Continue 242-778 to November 15 1995 for
modified plan, or more information on the plan regarding the common
driveway, second by D Feltovic Vote 5-0-0
Motion by R Mansour to Continue 242-779 to November 15 1995 for
modified plan, or more information on the plan regarding the common
driveway second by D Feltovic Vote 5-0-0
A Manzi left the meeting at 9 00 P M
NEW BUSINESS
242-265, Lot 18, 76 Wintergreen Drive, Certificate of Compliance
M Howard addressed the commission The applicants for the
certificate are Susan and Lawrence Hicks of 76 Wintergreen Drive
Lot 18 of Winter Green Estates Lot 18 is not part of the original
filing The commission reviewed and discussed the plan
Motion by R Mansour to Issue a Partial Certificate of Compliance
for Lot 18 (#76) Wintergreen Drive only second by D Feltovic
Vote 4-0-0 Mr Manzi not present
242-0951242-140, Lot 52A. 152 Vest Way, Certificate of Compliance
M Howard addressed the commission There are two Orders of
Condition for this property Lot 52A is not included in either of
these Orders The commission reviewed and discussed the plan
Motion by J Lynch to Issue a Partial Certificate of Compliance for
242-095 for Lot 52A, (152) Vest Way only second by D Feltovic
Vote 4-0-0
Motion by J Lynch to Issue a Partial Certificate of Compliance for
242-140 for Lot 52A, 152 Vest Way only second by D Feltovic
Vote 4-0-0
DECISIONS
242-776, Rte 125, Andover By-Pass, Meadowood III
D Feltovic to draft decision
ADJOURN
Motion by D Feltovic to adjourn the meeting at 9 15 P M second
by J Lynch Vote 4-0-0
George L Reich Chairman