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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-08-18 Minutes Pulbic Hearing 10/23/78 i October 23, 1978 -- Monday j Regular Meeting The PLANNING BOARD held a regular monthly .meeting on Monday evening, Oct. 23 r 9978 at 7:30 P.M. in the Town Office Meeting Room. The following members were present and voting: William N, Salemme, Chairman; John J. Monteiro, Vice-Chairman} Joyce A. DiTore, Clerk; William Chepulis and Michael P. Roberts. DEFINITIVE PUBLIC HMING4S: 1. CARLETON FARMS EAS - Victor Hatem, applicant; F. Gelinaa representing Desuu Corp. Consisting of 57 lots on, easterly side of Summer St. Same subdivision as submitted earlier in the year and subsequently disapproved. During some preliminary court pro- oeedings it was suggested that we come back in with another submittal. 5500 ft, of new roadway. Difference from this subdivision and the previous 'one= a portion of the run-off enters the pond in 3 different locations and several areas where existing drainage comes into the pond... Drainage calculations are summarized on the plan; if present darn is working as designed it produces an outflow of 2 ft./seo. Mr. Chepulis suggested that all the data on the drainage be submitted in writing. Mr. Gelinaa requested that this policy be clarified. The pond is undergoing an aging process and they do not wish to accelerate that process, he continued. Regarding Mr. Cyr's memo to lower Carleton Lane this would be aia undo hardship .on the applicant because of ledge, same fear of having to go on private property and' as a result they are not proposing to alter it. Re having the developer do work throughout Raleigh Tavern to rectify poor construction, olient .feels that these are two separate issues. We have eliminated the problem of easements referred to by Mr. Cyr by bringing the pipe egressing from the catch basins. Further, feeder roads in the area are out of our control. Regarding Board of Health recommendation of a modular treatment.plant for Qante - that is not practical and not in the best interests of the Town or a feat and e did t address the issue. Test pit and soil data was submitted and certified that it is suitable for subsurface disposal, systems for residential use. 7 or 8 hydrants throughout the site; they will tie in with the 8" water line with the presently exist- ing 6" going to Farnum St. removed and replaced with an 811. Letters from Highway Surveyor dated Oct. 23, 7978 and Con. Gom, of same date Were read and on file. Same for Vire Dept. letter dated Oat. 20, 1978. , Discussion took place regarding the present Raleigh Tavern and this subdivision during which time Mr. Gelinaa stated that this is a separate issue and town specs* have been up-graded since the time of the old subdivision to safeguard against such road conditions. i OPPOSITION: R. Noonan, Carleton Lane presented the Board with an Environmental impact statement by the abutters. Voiced concern bout drat e, the end, septio systems, roc con ns environmental impact. Jack Stiglin, Raleigh Tavern Lane, Duane ibbetts, a eight Tavern Lane, Patricia Scarborough, Raleight, Tavern Lane all voioed similar concerns. Veranioa Mandry, Summer St. questioned where all the water is going to go because of her property's proximity to this parcel.. Claudia Wylliet R. T. L. , stated facts about water elevations that occured last December. Dennis Dionne, R. T. L. suggested that the subdivision control subcommittee look at the shoulders on the road and strenu- ously objedted to an,V- type of equipment on the road other than town vehicles. Mr. Monteiro made a motion to continue the hearing until Nov, 6, 1978- Mr. Roberts seconded, and the vote was unanimous. 1 i ki. 2. CARLETON FARMS S1's Mr. Gelinas represented Begun Corp. Same subdivision, that was approved Feb. 27, 8 and rescinded on Aug. 7, 1978. This is a brand new sub mittal and reviewed since the previous approval. Lettero dated Aug. 18, 1977 from Highway Surveyor & BPW concern, this subdivision and not the previous one. During V process of approval it was approved with a oondition that a 40' "no touch" buffer rip exist on the westerly side of the subdivision and client does not feel he can live with this, it is a tremendous infringement on his rights and that the property will lose marketing value and flexibility and hoped-for Board reconsideration on this point. Also, a buffer 18 very hard to manage in terms of conveyance. Mr. Roberts read letters from Highway Surveyor, Con. Come Fire Dept.--dated Oat. 23, 1978• ! Letters are on file. Mr. Gelinas stated that there is a very small wetland partially on Lot 5. i Disoueaion re road wid easements. C said it was airreed and +.heZ reneged; Ha�tem said it was discussed and a m sun ers�anding 000urre . . Osgood state t they will give the Town $7,000 to do the work of repairif street plus all the rest of the letters cited from Desun to the BPW dated Nov. 1977• There are 3 hydrants shown on the plan; "pero tests at site of leeohi.ng fields to be rude prior to'road oonstruotion" is unacceptable- to the applicant. Mr. Roberts re—. quested t er ut in writing w he w 11. no to with some of the conditions as imposed on the prr2E a ro Vernnica Mandry, Summer St, objected to any further flow of water onto- her land. Very swampy parcel, she told the Board. 16Mr. Ro'berts3 asked if they would care.to re file -- no, let it stand as it is Mr. Roberts then made a motion to deny the proposed subdivision 'based on the fact that prior to this resubmittal on parcel of land had approved a subdivision with conditions which the Board felt were necessary to this paroel. on this resubmittal numerous of these conditions have been removed and this would be detrimental, to the tract of land. No :second, motion withdrawn. t Mr. Chepulis made a motion to accept the proposed subdivision, with the 15 listed items identical to the previously approved eubdivision. Mr. Montei.ro seconded. Motion and second then withdrawn:. Mrs. DiTore then made a motion to take the matter under advisement. Mr. Monteiro seconded and the vote was unanimous,._ r� /• > ` at Ham N. Sale e eoretary Gilda Blaokstook I t r' I October 23r 1978 Monday Regular Meeting The PUNNING BOM held a regular monthly meeting on Monday evening, Dot. 23, 1978 at 7130 P.M. in the Town Offioe Meeting Room. The following members were present and votings William N. Salemae, Chairman; John J. Xdnteiro, Vice-Chairman; doyoe A. . Bi,Tore, Clerk; William Chepuli,s and Michael P. Roberts. fi DEFINITIVE PUBLIC RMARINGS s ! 1. CARLETON FARMS EAST -- Victor 114te14 applicant; F. Oelinas representing Desun Uorp. Consisting of 57 lots on easterly side of Summer St. Same subdivision as submitted earlier in the. year and subseque'ntly disapproved. During some preliminary court pro.- oeedings it was suggested that we come back in. with another submittal, 5500 ft, of new roadway. Difference froia this subdivision, and the previous one- a portion of the run-off enters the pond in 3 different locations and several areas where existing drainage comes into the pond... Drainage calculations are summarized on the plan; if present dam is working; as designed it produdes an outflow of 2 ft.�seo, Mr, Rhepulis suggea�ted that all the data ors the drainage be submitted in writing, ,Mr. requested that this polioy be clarified. The pond is undergoing an aging process and they do not wish to accelerate that process, he continued. Regarding Mr. Cyr's memo to lower Carleton Lane this would be an undo hardship on the applicant because of ledge, some fear of having.to go on private property and as a result they .are not Proposing to alter it. .fie having the developer do work throughout Raleigh Tavern to rectify poor construction, client feels that these are two separate issues. We have eliminated the problem of easemento referred to by Mr. Cyr by bringing the pipe egressing from the 6atoh basins. Further, feeder roads in the area are out of our control, Regarding Board of Health recommendation of a modular treatment plant for waste - that is not praotioal and not in the boot interests of the Town or.vlient and be did not address the issue. Test pit and soil data wag submitted and certified that it is suitable for subsurfsoe' disposal systems for residential. use, 7 or 8 hydrants throughbut the site; they will tie in with the 811 water line with the presentlyexist- ing .6n going to Faznum St., removed and replaced with an 8a. Letters from Highway Surveyor dated Oct, 23, 1978 and Con.. (tom. of same date were read and on file. Same for Fire Dept. latter bated Got. 20, 1g78. Discussion tools place regarding the present Raleigh Tavern and this subdivision during which time Mr. Oel,iu4a stated that this is a separate iosue and town space. have been UP-graded since the time of the old subdivision to safeguard again�at such read conditions, i OPPOSITION-s R. Noonan, Carleton Lane presented the Board with an Environmental Impaot statement by the abutters. Voiced concern about drainage, the pond, septi,o systems, road oonditions, environmental impact. Jack sti.glin, Raleigh Tavern Lane, Duane Tibbetts, Raleight Tavern Lane, Patricia Scarborough,, Raleigh:. Tavern Larne all voiced similar concerns* Vernnica Mand.ry, Summer Sty questioned where all the water is going to go beoauoe of her propertyto proximity to this parcel. Claudia Wyllie, R. T. L. , stated faots about water elevations that ocoured last December. Dennis Dionne, R. T,, L. suggested that the subdivision oontrol -suboomitittee look at the shoulders on the road and strenu- ously objected to aay;;type of equipment on the road other than town vohioles. Mr. Monteiro made a motion to continue the hearing until Nov. 6, 1978. Mr. Roberts seoonlded and the vote was unanimous. 2. CARLETON FARMS WIaST: Mr. Gelinas represented Desun Corp. Same subdivision that was approved Feb. 27, 1918 and resoinded on Aug. 7, 1978- This is a brand now sub- mittal and reviewed since the previous approval.. Letters dated Aug. 18, 1977 from Highway Surveyor A BPW concern this subdivision and not the previous one. -Daring the process of approval it was approved with a-oondition that a 40' "no tough" buffer strip exist on the westerly side of- the subdivision and client does not feel he can live with this, it is a tremendous the on his rights and that the property will lose marketing value and flexibility an4 hoped•for Doard reoahsi,derati.on on . this point. Also, a buffer is very hard to menage in 'terms of oonveyana®. ! Mr. Roberts. react letters from Highwq Surveyo , Con. Com. Fire Dept.--dated flat. 23, '1978• Letters are on file. Mr. Golinas stated that there is a very small wetland partially on Lot 5. Di.soussion. re road Widening easemshta. Cyr said it was agreed and they reneged; item said it was- disoussed and a misunderstanding occurred. Mr. Osgood stated that they will give the Tom $7,O00 to do the work of repairing the street plus all the rest of the letters oited`from Desun to the.BPW dated Nov. 30, 1977. There are 3 hydrants shown on the plot; "peroI tests at site of losohing fields to be mach prior to road aonstruotion" is un QQeptable to the applicant. Mr.. Roberts re- quested that the developer put in writing why he will not go along ifi.th some of the conditions as imposed on the prior approval. Veranioa ltandry, Sumer M. objected to any further flow of water onto her land. Very swampy paroel, she told the Board. Mr. Roberts asked if they would ogre to refile - no, let it stand as it is Mr. Roberta than made a motion to deny the proposed subWtss-= 'used on the fact that prior to this resubmittal on parcel of lurid had approved a subdivision with conditions which the Board felt were necessary to this parcel. On this resubmi.ttal numerous of these conditions have been remove. and this would be detrimental to the tract of land. No second, motion withdrawn,. 1 Mr. Chepulis made a motion to accept the proposed subdivision frith the 15 listed items identical to the previously approved subdivision. Mr. Monteiro seconded, Motion and second then withdrawn. Mrs. DiTore then made a motion to take the matter under. advisement. Mr. Mon'teiaro seconded and the vote was unanimous. f i E E ' I