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DPW Conference Room
September 16, 1998
Members Present: Albert P Manzi, Jr, Chairman, Scott Masse, Vice Chairman,
Joseph Lynch and Deborah Feltovic John Mabon arrived at 8 50 p in Beth Wescott and
Robert Mansour were absent
Staff Present Michael D Howard, Conservation Administrator, Richelle L Martin,
Conservation Associate and Karen A Fitzgibbons, Secretary
The meeting was called to order at 7 00 p m
Minutes:
August 19, 1998
On a motion by Mr Lynch, seconded by Ms Feltovic, the Commission voted
unanimously to approve, as amended, the minutes of August 19, 1998
General Business (7:00 p.m.)
Eagle Scout Presentation/Brad Bate
Brad is a resident of Town who is working toward his Eagle Scout Badge His proposed
project is a platform leading to the pond at the Sargent School He distributed pictures to
the Commission of the proposed site for the platform and he is looking for endorsement
from the Commission Once the vegetation is cleared Brad will be able to take
measurements and determine how large the platform can be Brad is proposing to use
pressure treated wood if possible, or redwood if not It is hoped a contractor will donate
the materials Wood chips, donated by DPW, will be spread around Mr Howard stated
there will be no cutting of trees and there is a lot of poison ivy at the site The
Commission praised Brad for his presentation and recommended he file a Notice of
Intent for the project Mr Howard offered to help Brad through the NOI process when he
is ready to file
Deed Restriction—Right of First Refusal Form/Charles Foster
The form was sent from the Town Manager's office for the Commission to sign this
evening Upon review of the form, Mr Manzi noticed that certain language he asked for
was omitted Mr Masse offered to draft the language the Commission wants added On
a motion by Mr Lynch, seconded by Ms Feltovic,the Commission voted unanimously
to extend the signature rights given to Mr Manzi at the last meeting to Mr Masse
242-056 PCOC Lot 2, 32 Paddock Lane (Richard O'Neill, Jr & Associates,P C )
An OOC was issued on May 2, 1979 for the construction of Paddock Estates which is
located off of Boston Street There is a stream and BVW surrounding the property Ms
Martin stated she inspected the site and observed a dumping violation of yard waste on
the property She contacted Laurie Burzlaff who is representing the previous
homeowners, made her aware of the violation and instructed her to have the area cleaned
up Ms Martin stated as of today's date the area is not cleaned up, however, she is
working with a landscaper to clean it up Ms Martin recommends the Commission deny
the COC request On a motion by Ms Feltovic, seconded by Mr Lynch, the Commission
voted unanimously to DENY the Certificate of Compliance request
242-847 PCOC Lot 9 Settlers Ridge (Tom Zahoruiko)
An OOC was issued on February 6, 1997 authorizing construction of an 11 lot
subdivision including roadway design and associated utilities and appurtenances 25/50'
setbacks were mandated and met,the house is 5 F from the closest wetland point, the
bond is $3,000, the site is stable and the office is in receipt of a stamped as-built and a
letter from a P E certifying compliance Ms Martin stated she inspected the site, has no
issues and recommends the Commission issue a PCOC On a motion by Ms Feltovic,
seconded by Mr Lynch, the Commission voted unanimously to issue a PCOC for DEP
#242-847 lot 9 Settlers Ridge
242-847 PCOC Lot 10 Settlers Ridge (Tom Zahoruiko)
An OOC was issued on February 6, 1997 authorizing construction of an 11 lot
subdivision including roadway design and associated utilities and appurtenances A
small portion of the lot is in the 100' buffer zone, the entire house is outside the buffer
zone The office is in receipt of a letter from a P E certifying compliance along with
stamped as-builts The bond is $3,000, the site is stable and Ms Martin recommends
issuing a PCOC On a motion by Mr Lynch, seconded by Ms Feltovic,the Commission
voted unanimously to issue a PCOC for DEP #242-847 lot 10 Settlers Ridge
242-889 COC 427 Winter Street(John&Kristin Kirwin)New England En ing eering
This OOC is for replacement of a failed septic system within the buffer zone of a BVW
The system is exactly 50' from the BVW, the bond is $1500,the office is in receipt of a
letter from a P E certifying compliance along with stamped as-builts The site is stable
and Ms Martin recommends the Commission issue a COC On a motion by Ms
Feltovic, seconded by Mr Masse, the Commission voted unanimously to issue a COC for
DEP#242-889 427 Winter Street
At this time the Commission discussed the possibility of dealing with violators at the end
of the meetings It was generally thought to be a good idea and the Commission Office
will look into implementing it
Decisions:
242-926 Harold Parker State Forest, Middleton Rd Near Berry Pond Rd(Comm of MA)
Mr Howard stated this filing is not subject to the Bylaw, therefore, the OOC is issued
under the Act On a motion by Mr Masse, seconded by Ms Feltovic, the Commission
voted unanimously to approve, as drafted by Mr Howard,the Order of Conditions for
DEP#242-926
It is 7 40 p m and the Commission is taking a recess until 8 00 p in
Public Hearings (8:00 p.m.)
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242-784 Abbott Village Estates (North Andover Land Corp )
This case was remanded back to the Commission by Judge Kilbom Present this evening
are Atty. Joel Bard, Town Counsel, Peter Ogren, engineer for the project, Ben Osgood,
Jr and Sr , and Atty Howard Speicher There were also many abutters present Mr
Masse read the legal notice and Mr Manzi stated that on August 19, 1998 the
Commission office received information relative to a request for modification and is this
a Request for a Modification to 242-784? Atty Speicher stated that we are here this
evening for two reasons the remand of conditions 415 and 42 and while the matter was
before Judge Kilborn, DEP was considering a superseding OOC The Request for
Modification is with respect to the OOC under the bylaw Mr Manzi stated if the
Commission is looking at a modification we need to know if it is minor or major Atty.
Speicher stated that Peter Ogren will clear that up Mr Ogren stated that the project was
approved in 1984, appealed by an abutter, who was successful in the appeal In 1987 the
applicant changed the plan and appeared before the Planning Board and Conservation
Commission The economy took a down turn and in 1994 the project was purchased by
the present owner The plans were changed considerably to reflect the new regulations
Several hearings over several months were held and the big issues were driveway
crossings where the applicant got into trouble with the Planning Board The
Conservation Commission also didn't like the crossing at Nutmeg Lane, insisted it be a
through road Throughout the hearings it seemed that the Thistle Road crossing was not
that important Mr Ogren read from the minutes of 1/96 stating that Nutmeg Lane was
more important and when we got to trial we heard the Commission would like to see a
span, which we thought wasn't necessary The judge agreed and here we are Mr Ogren
stated his client would like to pick up and take a stab at addressing any concerns about a
span We are here tonight in the spirit of trying to address the concerns of the
Commission Mr Lynch asked Mr Bard if the Commission is supposed to look at this
crossing on its own merit and he replied we need to look at two things tonight the whole
picture and the modification Mr Manzi asked exclusive of the crossing, are we to make
a determination on the modification9 Atty Bard stated we don't know that yet Mr
Masse stated the letter from Mr Ogren is for a Request for a Modification, isn't it9 Atty
Speicher stated it is confusing, the judge said if any new information is brought forward,
it must be a public hearing, the remand is a public hearing Mr Ogren stated the
applicant appealed to DEP and the appeal came at the same time of the stormwater
management policy, it's not realistic to have the applicant conform totally so to that end
we have made some changes A new hydraulic analysis was done and submitted to the
Commission office An earthen dam was present causing a rather large wetland
Additional mitigation is wanted in the form of partial bridging It seems more sensible to
look at the Nutmeg crossing as far as bridging is concerned The crossing that has the
most beneficial use should be done The Planning Board voted a roadway alignment
change From Thistle Road there is an island area of upland in the middle and the
crossing geometry becomes more constrained as you go down, it is a much more difficult
area to cross engineering wise Routine maintenance would be necessary and all of those
things say to put the crossing at Nutmeg Lane A 16' crossing at Nutmeg Lane is
proposed using 4' x 5' pre-cast concrete placed repetitiously across the stream A 42"
high safety rail will be installed The area will be able to handle a 16' concrete span with
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minimal disturbance At the Thistle Road crossing there is no geometry to use a large
span A partial span might be accommodated on the Thistle Road crossing A 12' span
can be accommodated across the southerly area 400 sf of area to be filled will be
eliminated Mr Ogren further stated that it is the hope of the applicant that the
Commission would issue an Order under the local bylaw with this new information Mr
Howard asked in regards to the alternatives analysis, does this document you are
submitting justify why a partial span can be used9 Mr Ogren replied yes Mr Howard
stated regarding a partial span vs a full span,that would need outside review Mr
Howard stated 6,000 sf with 2 1 replication was proposed, does that change? Mr Lynch
stated this seems outside the remand order and what is the total wetland alterations Mr
Ogren stated the same 8,000 sf, we've just offered to span Nutmeg Lane (It is 8 50 pm
and Mr Mabon just arrived) Mr Manzi stated the Commission conditioned 6240 sf of
wetland alteration Mr Lynch stated we are looking at spans and crossings and we need
to deal within the bounds of a modification This seems like a moderate size change
Mr Masse stated we have to decide what type of modification it is, feels it is moderate at
least and the public hearing should be opened and a site walk scheduled Also an outside
consultant should be hired Ms Feltovic agrees with the moderate modification
suggestion Mr Lynch stated to Atty Bard that the total alteration before the
Commission 2 years ago is the same as today) Atty Bard replied that under th eremand
the applicant could come back with the same plan and thejudge said to look at the Thistle
Road crossing separate from the whole subdivision The applicant has revised the plan
and the Commission is being asked to consider it Mr Manzi stated if the Commission
considers it a modification it opens up the whole thing, an outside consultant will need to
be hired and wouldn't that be in compliance with the remand order9 Atty Bard stated
"yes " Mr Howard stated the engineering proposals are significant enough that this is a
moderate modification Mr Masse read Section 8 c from the Bylaw. Atty Bard asked if
there was any feedback from the applicant before the Commission goes to a motion and
Atty Speicher stated that we understood that regardless what your bylaws say we take
exception that would entitle the Commission to revisit the entire project and we've
proposed changes that will only be beneficial The applicant is asking that the
Commission not review the whole project 7180 sf included the driveway crossing, all
the fill at Nutmeg Lane and 430' at Thistle Road not being filled To clarify, Atty Bard
stated to Atty Speicher you have no problem with the changes being reviewed,but
serious problems about revisiting the entire project,right? Atty Speicher stated that the
modification should be reviewed under the bylaw only Mr Manzi agrees Mr Lynch
made a motion that the modification presented in regards to three items span crossings,
stormwater discharge and roof runoff be considered a moderate modification as stated
under Section 8 3 c Mr Masse seconded the motion and before a vote was taken Atty
Speicher stated that we're concerned that if this goes to a consultant it would give an
opportunity to go into other areas we don't want to go into The remand told the
Commission to look at the crossing the way it is The applicant asked for, and received a
ten minute recess The recess is over and Atty Speicher stated the applicant appreciates
the Commission's standings, wants the modification not to be considered moderate, the
changes approved by DEP were not considered moderate however, we don't want to
waive our rights They just want the consultant to review the three changes and further
limit the consultant from reviewing any specific change except where the Bylaw is more
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restrictive than the Act Mr Howard stated that according to the Bylaw the applicant can
have three bids The vote on the motion was 4-0-1 (Mr Mabon abstained) Mr Manzi
stated that for the purpose of the remand order it will be considered through the motion
Atty Bard stated the applicant volunteered to bring the changes forward,not the
Commission The applicant stated they want three estimates regarding a consultant and
Mr Howard will do that Bill Sullivan, an Abbott Street abutter, asked if the meeting
will be continued and Mr Manzi replied yes Joe Sasha, 61 Abbott Street, asked if there
are impacts on his property, will the Commission review that and Mr Manzi replied it's
not likely Art Duffy, 171 Abbott Street, asked if another notice will be given to the
abutters and Atty Bard stated it is ajudgement call, if the applicant wants to be more
conservative they could notify Joseph Monahan, 644 Salem Street, stated he has lived in
the house two years and his yard frequently floods from Bear Hill Mr Manzi stated the
laws have changed substantially since the construction of the Bear Hill subdivision An
abutter at 46 Woodbury Lane asked if he had this straight it is his understanding that the
Nutmeg Lane crossing was denied? Atty Speicher replied yes, but the judge remanded
the Commission to look at it again An abutter at 185 Abbott Street asked regarding the
Thistle Road crossing, is it 5 lots and Atty Speicher replied at least 5 lots, really 6 lots
Bill Sullivan asked the Commission if they may still come up with a decision that Thistle
Road is denied? Mr Manzi replied we can't say that Mr Howard recommends
continuing the public hearing until 10/7/98 On a motion by Mr Lynch, seconded by Ms
Feltovic,the Commission voted unanimously to continue the public hearing until
10/7/98
Request(s) for Determination of Applicability
437 Summer Street Joseph Scandore (New England Engineering)
Proof of mailings was given to the Commission and the applicant is requesting a
continuance until the October 7, 1998 public hearing On a motion by Mr Lynch,
seconded by Ms Feltovic, the Commission voted unanimously to grant the continuance
until the October 7, 1998 meeting
Notice of Intent(s)
242-927#80 Campbell Road(Karen Hamill) Hancock Engineering cont fr 912198
Julie Parrino is present and stated that she met on site with some of the Commission
members Some changes were made to the plan including a permanent barrier being
installed Mr Howard recommends closing the public hearing and issuing a decision
within 21 days On a motion by Ms Feltovic, seconded by Mr Mabon, the Commission
voted unanimously to close the public hearing and issue a decision within 21 days
242-920 #79 Hillside Road Map 25/Parcel 79 (Mesita Development) cont fr 8119198
Mr. Howard stated he has received additional information from John Chessia and there
are no outstanding issues left, therefore, he recommends closing the public hearing and
issuing a decision within 21 days On a motion by Mr Masse, seconded by Ms Feltovic,
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the Commission voted unanimously to close the public hearing and issue a decision
within 21 days
242-921 Brook Farm Subdivision (M Antonelh) cont fr 8119198
Mr Howard stated he just received new information today and hasn't had time to
respond. All issues are not cleared up yet The attorney for the project was present and
stated time is of the essence and is asking the Commission if they can close the public
hearing tonight The Commission stated they must wait for Mr Howard to review the
information Mr Howard offered to try and have a decision ready for the next meeting
The applicant is requesting a continuance until the 10/7/98 meeting On a motion by Ms
Feltovic, seconded by Mr Masse, the Commission voted unanimously to continue the
public hearing until the 10/7/98 meeting
242-925 33 Johnson Street, No Andover Youth Center (Christiansen &Sergi) cnt fr
8119198
Mr Howard stated that the last outstanding issue was minimizing the impacts to the
wetland area from the new building The standard for the project to be considered a
redevelopment project has been met Mr Howard recommends closing the public
hearing and issuing a decision within 21 days On a motion by Mr Lynch, seconded by
Ms Feltovic, the Commission voted unanimously to close the public hearing and issue a
decision within 21 days
242-928 Lot IN Berry Street, east side, (One Hundred Fourteen Trust)
and
242-929 Lot 2N Berry Street, east side, (One Hundred Fourteen Trust)
and
242-930 Lot 3N Berry Street, east side, (One Hundred Fourteen Trust)
Patrick Garner and Peter Hingoram were present and since there were no abutters, Mr
Hingoram consented to the waiving of the reading of the legal notices Mr Hingoram
requested a continuance of the above listed projects until the October 7, 1998 meeting
242-931 Lot 4N Rt 114, east of Berry Street (One Hundred Fourteen Trust)
There were no abutters present and the applicant consented to the waiving of the reading
of the legal notice The proposed project is for a 50,000 sf building The applicant
waived the three bids for an outside consultant and would like to use Coler& Colantonio
Mr Lynch made a motion, seconded by Mr Masse, to establish a$5,000 outside escrow
account The vote of the Commission was unanimous The applicant requested a
continuance until the 10/7/98 meeting On a motion by Mr Lynch, seconded by Ms
Feltovic,the Commission voted unanimously to continue the public hearing at the
10/7/98 meeting
242-932 Waverly Rd from Andover Town Line (Wetlands Preservation, Inc)
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Adele Fionello from Wetlands Preservation was present representing Bay State Gas
John Nerden was also present There were no abutters present and Ms Fioriello
consented to waive the reading of the legal notice The proposed work consists of
installing erosion controls,plowing a utility trench, laying the gas line and restoring the
trench to original grade and surface cover over a distance of 395 linear feet There will
be no overnight stockpiling of soils or open trenches All proposed work is within the
roadway or right-of-way/shoulder Mr Howard stated the wetland line was approved
through the Den Rock project, and he has been working with Ms Fiorillo and John
Nerden all along Mr Howard recommends closing the public hearing and issuing a
decision within 21 days On a motion by Mr Masse, seconded by Ms Feltovic, the
Commission voted unanimously to close the public hearing and issue a decision within
21 days
242-933 Campbell Road/Lyons Way Sub (West Environmental) MPG Realty Corp
Mark West, West Environmental, was present and proof of mailing was given to the
Commission The proposed project includes the construction of 7 single family homes
and 1200 linear feet of roadway with associated drainage Mr West stated the wetlands
are shown on the property and there is a fair amount of disturbance due to past work
There is an intermittent stream in the back of the property There will be 700 sf of
wetland crossing and there will be 2 houses located close to the 25' and 50' Mr Manzi
asked if at the entrance at Campbell Road did you determine any hydrolic links through
boulders and Mr West replied no Mr Lynch expressed concern regarding an old order
and a violation Ms Martin stated a COC was issued on the old order It was discussed
that an escrow account should be established The applicant waived the three bid process
for an outside consultant and will use Coler&Colantomo On a motion by Mr Lynch,
seconded by Ms Feltovic,the Commission voted unanimously to establish an escrow
account in the amount of$5,000 Mr Howard recommended the applicant stake out the
area for a site walk Debbie and Robert Acciacca, 168 Campbell Road, 681-6179 have
owned and lived in the home for many years, however,they are not on the abutters list
and never received notice of the meeting They were advised to contact the assessor's
office to try and set the matter straight The Conservation Office will notify the
Acciacca's of future meetings and when a site walk is scheduled
Decisions:
242-927 80 Campbell Road(Karen Hamill) Hancock Environmental
Mr Howard had a draft Order of Conditions prepared for the Commission's review On
a motion by Ms Feltovic, seconded by Mr Lynch, the Commission voted unanimously
to approve, as amended, the draft Order of Conditions for DEP 4242-927 80 Campbell
Road
Adjournment:
On a motion by Mr Lynch, seconded by Mr Mabon, the Commission voted unanimously
to adjourn the meeting