HomeMy WebLinkAbout1949-09-26SEPTE~ER.26, 1949- continued.
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ADVISORYBOARDMEETING.
Hr. Salisbury informed the Selectmen that there would be smearing of the
AdvisoryBoard on Thursday evening and any matters to come before this board
should be presented at that time.
BRAI)STREET SCHOOL=
Hr. Fred Phelan 6fProspect Street came before the Board to discuss the Brad-
street school yard. He informed the board that his child had fallen on a pipe
and received a black and blue mark. Be said there were about 50Ostones in the
yard, some as bid as a basketball and some child could be seriously injured.
Hr. Thomson explained that Mr. 0'Brian had stated that due to the heavy rains
the stones had come to the top and that it did create a hazard$~s c6ndition.
The contract calls for the foundation to be filled with material suitableto the
Selectmen. The matter will be taken up with the Lawrence Building Wrecking Co.
Hr. Coffin said he would l{ke to meet with Mr. 0'Brian and have the men'from
this company come over and see what can be done.
Mr. Finneran stated he was willing to go down and look the situation over.
STEVENS ~AT.T.~
The Board voted u~animously to grant permission the the Parents-Teachers. Asso-
ciation to use Stevens Ball on October 13, 1949 for the first regular meeting.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WOR~:
Notice received of an order drawn on this' town iR favor of Yemma Brothers, Inc.
for the sum of $5,869.25 on account of work doneuunder contract with the town.
PLANNING BOARD: ..
Notice received that a he~ring will be held on October 7, 1949 at 8:00 P.Mi
in the Town building upon ,the petition of Geurg~ and David Re--is, Jr.
for an amendment of the Zoning By-Laws of theTown of North Andover to' change
the classification of a parcel of land, from a general residence to an
agricultUral district. . .
LA~RENCEGAS&ELECTRIO C0MPAN~:
Permission granted to this c6mpsny for ..excavating to install'gas service for
Arnold Stork, 224 Salem St. 40 feet on street and 0rest Coppers,. Prospect St.
at.Chadwick St., 14feet On street. Mr. Carry to be notified of this excavation.
STREET LIGHT:
Noticereceived that a 1000 lumen indandescent street light has been installed
on pole 3442, Mablin,Avenue as requested by this board on,~ugust 23, 1949.
EESI~VEPATROLMENAPPOIIITMEIIT~ .
The ~ard of Select~e~:appointed five Reserve Patrolmen as certified on an
_elig~hl~list re~i%~d'~om the Division of Civil Service. The first five
men on,the list were appointed inthe order of theirmarkings:RussellF.
Dounelly,'SAWaterSt., Robert L. Sanborn,.59 Maple '~ve. Charles R, McOuhbin
22 Cleveland St. Paul G.'Dyer, 7Prospect St. and Frank ~. Durhams,
2~3 0sgood Street.' Aprropriate forms will be sent to Civil Ser~ie~'f0r
Approval.
SUTTON STREET- POLIOE DEPARTMENT*
~ohnNalsh'of 100 Main Street cama'bef0rethe board and:discUssed th~;widening
of SuttonStrest curve. He mentioned that there are,many curves in town where
accidento.ma~,happen and-all.would have-to be straightened out if thig One is
done and.the cost to the town would be terrific. He'went on to mention one
accident which happened in. 1947 and the brakes ~arkes measured '185 feet as he
was there when it was measured. He mentioned a recent accident and stated
that .this accident {as not due. to the curve, as,it was a resident of the 'town.'
and he was in a hurry and csme looping around the corner and losf,.control~off
his car. I Hr. Nalshfurther stated that if the 0hief of Police would instvueg
his~men ~6,hacareful and checkup on the speeding, these a~cideits'csuld be
~avoidad..He told of gn incident in 1946 when he was riding his bicycle on Sutton
Street and two cars came over the hill and missed him by two,feet.and, than
the two cars almost collided. Be reported this to the police'and nothing was
done about it. Ne said the' drivers~were the Dowe boy.~rom the Red Schoolhouse
and Alfred McXee Jr. Be Said people get away with everything in this"toanl
He mentioned the recent articles in the newspaper, published for the police
department, what..th~y~_are going to do etc. but never do anything; He said that
for a seven, man,~ol~ce, department they do not have a very go~d record;
went on to.read the police report in the town report for the past five years.
· He said ,that the selectmen could standout in front and they Would catch the
speeders right and left. The police ought ~o get out and do something. Hr.
~alsh said he would like to ask.the Selectmen to do something about this
matter. Be said they do everything except what they. should do.
SEPTEMBER 26, 1949-continued
Mr. Welsh said he feels he has a right to come up here end squak about these
things. Be referred .a~in to .t__ha curve and said the ~aJority of accidents
were caused by their-own.~tupidness.
Mr. Finneran felt' that anyone could have an accident right in front of this
building but it wouldn't necessarily be their fault; He told Mr. Wnlsh
he was Just assu~ing that these drivers were speeding, that he wasn't there
when the accidents happened.
Mr. Walsh again said he wanted the hoard to stop these speeders and have the
chief do something. Re said the only place you see the' police car is .on
Chickering Road and Turnpike Street.
Mr. Thomson then read a letter from the police Journal - which explained what
the chief wa~ trying ~o do by having the State police cooperate with him on
checking the speeding, ~r~.al Justice Chae. Tromhly will he available on
Saturdays to take care of any cases and Charles Bailey,: of~tbe Registry will
also cooperate with respect to "Stop" street sigm violations within the
town.
Mr. Thomson read a letter from the School Bu~.lding which explained: what
that'committee had ·done with respect to ~p~eding on Chickering Road and
the safety problem involed in the erectinn of the new elementary-school.
Mr; Curry, in charge of the traffic division, came to North Andovar umd
he mentioned 'several solutions. Mr. Curry and Mr. O'brien~ also concurred
with Chief McKee.
Mr. Thomwon mentioned these letters at this time as' it is in line with the
subject, brought' up by Mr. Walsh.
· Mr~ Walsh mentioned the yethuen and ~ndover police and said that, p~ople
wouldn't even.'try' ~o 'get away with things there Because they, respect the
efficiaency of their police departments.
· 'Mr, Coffin said he was very pleased 'to hear Mr. Walsh's remarks' about the
laxigy,of~ the chief;
Mr. Fizneran i~.~ed~,if thcyl thought we had a bigger problem than any other
place.
MrJ Walsh said he did and that he was ~watching the Chief like a. ha'wk.
said you see them go out inthe car hut nobody knows where they/go.~ ~e brought
up the matter of officers who worked, at the hospital guarding a~,prisoner and
had to wait until March of the following 'year Before they could get paid
but the Chief could pay special officers 'who worked for him while he' served
dinners to people through his' catering business. ~
Mr. Fred Phelan mentioned that at one time he-tried to awaken' an 'officer~in
the station at four o'clock in the morning to take'his mother to the hospital,
but it took twenty minutes and then the officer said he could not leave the
station. '- ' ·
Paul 'Dyer Stated that there was an article for three regular offi,cers in the
recent town warrant hut the~epople voted it down. Re. said with ~even~police
officer, ~working 48 hours, what could be expected. They'can onlyi[ do/so much.'~
~e"told Mr. ~alsh to ,"figure it out.#
Mr. ~alsh then left the meeting. ~ '--
Mr. Thomson-then said he was interested'~inwhat. Mr. Walsh had to'~'say, and Be w~uld
' like'~to'~he satisfied that what he said ~'s so ornot.~ He suggested that the board
j., get together a~d 'meet' 'with 'the chief of police and cruise the town to see ifthere
~.'(-_ iS~lm~est~ai~ed speeding and better eval,ua~e 'the complaint.' . ~ ~
k ~FFJ~naran agreed that~ the suggestion was good.
Mr.'Thomson said he would prefer that all three members go,along and~not advise·
,~ the other of the time of availability. ~f they preferred,~i~h~eY c. ould go without
an, officer.
Mr.'Coffin said, he still felt that the-Selectmen cannot deal~with ',the lsi~uati, on
and-again suggestsd that a co-~s~ion of five good men he chosen.:tc~takn, ovar
this matter and check the situation. He said. that his views are well established
and there is no need to repeat 'them. Tf the board feels that laxity exists, they.
',should make inquir2 and appoint a trzffic'commission, l~e,does not halieve that
going out to-see' if motorists 'ars~:~lagrantly Breaking the law,~ can' accomplish
anything.
Mr. Thomson then said that if a person*comes'in~ here and complainsi ,Z-thi~k
~e should ascertain the accuracy of the assertions. ~ dont' feel that~ ~! should
ask someone else to do what T am supposed to do, ,as a selectman.."
Mr. Coffin then said,"tet us take.those steps" .Let us require all re'cords of
the Police Department he ~rought in her and'see~how many have been-fixed. We can
detarmine from the record how many'fixes there are and get-to the base of. it.
! do not see how looking at 'a few automobiles reviewed half-heartedly, can get
results.
Mr. Thomson, said,'Again~ if.person claimsviolations 'are so ~lagrant and so
numerous and if we are satisfied such is the case, then it is time to delve into
the matter.
Mr. Voffin said it is pretty generally known and~ don't see'wh~ we should set
ourselves up as watchdogs. Take action now. ~ am-getting sick and tired of
getting calls from mothers asking that the speed be. cut down. ~t is'common talk
and I am sick of it and l wish they would contact some other member of the board.
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SEPTEMBER26,1949-continued
Mr; Coffin said he was ready to take action but you fellows wont go along
with me.
Mr. Fimneran said he thought he would hear about all these complaints if they
were so numerous.~ ~e told Mr. Coffin t4at he must have to go to a certain place
for that information. He doesn't see any flagrant violations. With respect to
a broken tail light, or one light out, that might happen and if calledto.the
driver's attention, it would'be taken care of.
Mr. Coffin saidthat if that wereall, it would be.minor.
There was further discussion as to the accident record in North Andover.
Mr.'Coffin said that the accident record is not necessarily the criterion
of law enforcement. He went on further to explain about reportable accidents
with respect to property damage and not being required to.report them so that
the number of accidents reported'would not be accurate.
Mr. Thomson went on to say that he would like to cruise the town, second, he was
not in favor of a commission and third , that if it is felt that there issome
advantage to discuss matters of the police department with the individual officers,
separately, he would agree, with the thought in mind~that he might enlighten us as
to what goes on.
Mr. Coffin asked Mr. Thomson, if he understood th4t.he.believed that bringing
in the officers separately and the records ofthe department for past .ten years,
is a~reeable to him?
Mr. Thomson stated'that he is talking about ~atters whichYefar'~to law enforcements
and wouldn't be inter~ted in looking into past records unless it were something
that might help us in the present problem.
Mr.-Coffin asked Mr. Thomson if he believed that a p~lice officer would voiUn~e~r
information if no direct questions were asked. If you ref~r~to tra'ffic law only
and'if other matters came up as wewent along, wouId you still feelthis way?
Mr. Coffin then said that he understand thatthe feelingof the chairman is;
l'.Go about the country~nounced and.check statements.'
~2J'Call in individual officers and inquire into any matter which he ~ight state
in an executive session and if need of delving intorecords is necessary, they
will he brought into this office.and impounded.
,'Mr. Thomson said he would like it understood that he is',not, interested'in
resurrecting 81d records. He is checking om the present"endeavor to attempt
to. correct alleged violations and alleged inefficiency of the officers.
Mr; Coffin inquired as to what sense there would be in,ringing in' the~officers.
,Mr. Thomson then said that if~ they were not able to perform their ~Job they would
tell usand we can substantiate his statement. ' '
Mr. Coffin then inquired if Mr. Thomson wanted toforget the past or if he intended
to benefit.by.what might he found in the past records.
Mr. Thomson.statedthat he would meetthe occasion ~s it arisesJ If-there are
reasons, for the existence of some action and if we can curethis condition, then
that would be his purpose. .
Mr..Finneran said he would go along with Mr. Thomson andgo around the town
and he is not in favor of appointing a commission at this time..He feels that
the board should be guided~by~h~t they find in the town. He said he 'cerlm~ly
has no desire to go back five 'or 'ten years in the Police'Department recerds.
think, said Mr. Finneran that we should take care of the present conditions.
He said he would be willing to talk with thsofficers hut he is not tOO concerned;
Mr. Finneram said that he felt that Mr. Thomson was trying t0appeasg Mr., Coffin.
· ~he officer would talk about their views as"to bettering flagrant~violation. They
are Studying police work and should havesomething to tell. us; We could always
reserve the right to he guided by-out.~alk with them. ~ dont believe this
department is an~different from any. other police department.
Mr. Coffin then said that because ~ cannothelieve the manner.which you suggest
will not be productive, under the situation as I know it, ~ take no point of
view and whatever vote or action you take, ~.willfollow.
Mr. Thomson then said that after the speeding repOrt~and what youknow, the. allega-
tions you have made of the chief, you think the manner of talking with police
officers is of no avail.
Mr. Coffin said that it is not what. the other memhars.are.doing, it' is the manner
of conducting that he objects to.
Mr. Finneran thanked Mr. Coffin at this time.
Mr. Coffin.~said that he would want the. records .of the P~lice Department for the
past 'three years, right here and now. Hewould want each man called in individ-
ually and answer any and all questions and any ~uestions pertaining to law
enforcement for. five years. We could have a public stenographer if necessary
and a stenogralxh~c .report for each member. Such an inquiry ma~ take five weeks.
The basic thing is on this statement here and ~ had hoped very. sincerely that
the chief would really do the Job the way he said he would but he did not.
have not publicly criticised him for the past year. You cannot get law enforce-
ment if~people think they can get away with anything. The Board of Selectmen
is charged with the responsihitity~of the oversight of the Police Department.
Mr. Coffin said he well remembers that Mr. Thomson in 1947 said that Chief McKee
was a political puppet. Mow times have changed and things are reversed. Ne said
it hur~a him terribly to say these things but he feels it is his duty to do so.
SEPTEMBER 26, 1949- continued.
Mr. Thomson inquired if Mr. Coffin was stating th t Chief McKee is acting as
a political puppet for this hoard, except for Mr. Thomson,
Mr. Coffin said No, but the police chief weilds his political forces tb the
Board of Selectmen and every politician who wants anything, goes to the chief.
~ere we have a department and nearly every member'has another Job. You can't
blame the man if the head of the department has another Job. No'wo~der the
people wont do anything about having more men. It is because they don't show
any results. I would like to get down ~o facts.
Mr. Thomson said it was an interesting disclosure that shows there can be a
difference of opinion.as to a three man hoard, and is worthy of discussion.
I don't believe that because I express~thought or mode of action that' it is
necessarily the best for the circumstances nor do I believe'that any other
member has the best thought. Ail members have an,opinion. ! believe that a
suggestion or mode of p~ocedure is not necessarily the proper one under ali
circumstances. I don't like these continuous suggestions that we are not
performing, our duties as our conscience dictates.
.Mr. Thomson further stated that he doesn't receive any complaints about the
police department. You fellows are available and hear more hut dont you
think that I would at least hear from one or two people in, the tOwn. Z donft
like to accuse anyone unless I have the proSf but I would like to he present
and. see these speeders for myself. A person wouldn't intentionally have a tail
light out and ~'J it should be reported then he would be PU~f~h~dif'it were.
not fixed. I should like to makeohaervation and examination ourselves. If not
satisfactory to us then it is perfectly alright with me to go' ahead and ~alk
with the o~ficers of the department and if necessary we'would look ht the
records but only for the purpose o£.checking this particnlarmattar.
No action ~as taken and. the hoard went on With other matters.
OCTOBER3, 1949~
The regular weekly meeting of'tha Board of Selectmen was held at ?~00 P.M. with
all members present. ~eekiYbills and payrolls were approved.
BOARD OF TRADE~
Three members of the Board 'of Trade came before the board to discuss lighting
in the town for Xmas ~ecoration. They asked for permission to have feed ~ires
'for Christmas lights, at Railroad Square and across Jefferson Square if necessarT,
for the purpose of illuminating the squares. The B~ard of Trade requested a
letter from the Board giving this permission.
Mr. Lumenello incuired if the Board was interested enough to have the Town Building
decorated. Mr. Thomson mentioned the Police and Fire Department and felt that the
appropriations.should he checked to see if the money was available. The Board of
Trade were discouraged bytheLawrence GAS&Electric 0o. on account of wires.with
high voltage.
They then discussed the matter of Ohristmas trees at Sutton's Corner, Lihrary~
Railroad Square, and Jefferson Square.
Mr. Carry was presentand they discussed the matter of sinking a pipe into the high-
way for placement of,the ~ree. It wouldhave tO he 3 or 4 feet deep and a 6" soil
pipe used. This.wculd he cappedwhan not in use. Mr. Carty agreed to do thiswork and
will talk withMr. Duffy about the soil pipe~
AD~YSORY BOARD:
My. Thomson read, a letter from thaAdvisory Board with respect to the request for
transfer of $1800 tO straighten the corner at Sutton Street, near ~igh Street.
The Advisor~ Board discussed this matter at a recent meeting and considered the precise
question involved and they reaffirm their decision of April 14, 1947 andrecummend
that the proposed expenditure be requested either at a special tOwn meeting (if th·
selectmen feel that a' sudden emergency has arisen) or at the annual town meeting in
19~0. The Advisory Board also recommended that the chief of police be instructed to
paint a white safety line on Sutton Street as a partial remedy for the'alleged
dangerous condition. The Board voted to ~&ep this matter pending until the annual
town meeting.
B~A$~EETSCBOOLIA~D:
Francis Kittredge and Charles Tromhly came before the board to discuss the condition
at the Bradstreet School yard. Mr. Thomson informed them that the contrac~x.s had
removed all the stones and cleared up the place and he was anxious to hear the ideas
of those present.
Both agreed that the permanent remedy would be to cover the whole yard with hot top
and the cost was discussed. Mr. Kittredge mentioned that there is a steep grade
there and it is impossible to keep turf there and nothing,will hold water run except
hat-top. They came tO agree on a figure of~3,000 as the cost of the complete Job.
Mr. Kittredge said that the school committee has no money for this work and he feels
that the articles under the school building committee would'not cover this expense.
Mr. Trombly stated that he felt' that~ the school yard is part of the school building
but the only question is monsy. He feels that it should.he done at once.