HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988-03-31The North Andover Planning Board held a requiar meeting on Thursday
evening, March 31, t988 in the Town Hall, Selectmen's Meeting Room. The
meeting was called to order by George Perna, Vice-Chairman, at ?:5?
p.m. Also present were John Simons, Clerk and Erich Nitzsche. Absent
were Paul Hedstrom, Chairman and John Burke.
Public Hearin~
Digital Site Plan Review
John Simons read the legal notice to open the public hearing.
Perna tabled any discussion due to the lack of a quorum.
George
MOTION: By John Simons to continue the public hearing until April lq,
1988.
SECOND: Erich Nitzsche
VOTE: Unanimous of those present
Micromatics Site Plan Review
John Simons read the legal notice to open the public hearing. George
Perna tabled any discussion due to the lack of a quorum.
MOTION: By John Simons to continue the public hearing until April 14,
1988.
SECOND: Erich Nitzsche
VOTE: Unanimous of those mresent
~pproval Not Rec~ired Form A~s
Deerfield Subdivision -
CBA and Wetlands to be identified. Planner to discuss issues with
aoplicant.
MOTION: By John Simons to continue the discussion and notify the
applicant
SECOND: Erich Nitzsche
VOTE: Unanimous of those present
Bearhill Subdivision --
MOTION: By John Simons to approve the Form A subject to changing one
solid line to a broken tine.
SECOND: Erich Nitzsche
VOTE: Unanimous of those present
Discussions
Rea Street - Preliminarw__~.s
John Simons read a letter from Ralph Joyce. Applicant is asking for an
extension from the Board. John Simons stated that there was lmck of
information and does not meet minimum ~iling. Erich Nitzsche asked
planner to get an official letter of extension. George Perna wanted
more information for the next meeting.
Woodchuck Hill (PRD) "Common on the Hill"
Ben Osgood presented the Board with the plans. The design is by
Matarazzo Design Inc. Progosed are 61 units. The main roadway to be S6
feet to 2A feet loop to 2~ foot to 18 foot driveways. Applicant is
proposing a gazaboo in a common area. George Perna questioned the count
on the dwellings. Mr. Osgood stated that there would be i1 triplexes,
10 duplexes and 9 singles. George Perna was concerned with the number
of units. Mr. Osgood stated that he has submitted two subdivision
plans. CBA is in excess of 75~. Scott Stocking, Town Planner said he
spoke to Stephen Stapinski and that no grade would be more than 8~ on
the roadway. John Simons liked the natural state rather than
formersubmission of a standard subdivision plan. He questioned the
location of the sewer. Mr. Osgood stated that half the cost of the
sewer would be paid along with adjacent developers. Erich Nitzsche
cited safety issues possibly guard rails and wider shoulder areas. Mr.
Osgood stated that he would be filing a final set of plans in about two
months.
Lindenwood -
Deferred to the meeting of April !~ 1988.
School Site - Town Farm
No one present to discuss. To be placed on the agenda for April 14~
1988.
Decisions
Site Plan Review - Town Warrant Article
To be placed on the April ?, 1988 meeting.
Lonq Pasture - Definitive Subdivision
MOTION: By Erich Nitzsche to approve subject to conditions
NO SECOND.
Erich Nitzsche had concerns that the development will be built as plans
indicate. He drafted conditions as well as the Town Planner, Scott
Stocking. Erich Nitzsche went over conditions 1, 8 and 3 of his draft.
Condition ~4 was the same as Condition ~i3 of the Town Planner's draft
decision. Erich Condition ~5 was minor and housekeeping. Condition
the house was too close to Forest Street. Condition #? of Erich's draft
the driveway is not an issue. Erich's Condition ~8 same as Town
Planner's Condition #1. Conditions ~9 and ~i0 are addressing drainage
easement. Conditions #11, #1~ and #13 were addressed in the draft
decision of the ]own Planner.
Paul Polinski and Carl Schone, abutters~ were present and expressed
their concerns regarding the design of the drainage facilities.
John Simons wanted changes made in the draft decisions. The number 1
concern was the length of the cul-Oe-sac, reducing it to 500', short of
the wetlands. Phil Christiansen cited the cul-de-sac length being 500~
with respect to R-~ ~ ~ 3, and q Districts, stating that in an R-4
Zoning District you could nave possibly 15 two family homes and then
there would be a safety issue with the 500~ cul-de-sac.
John Simons wanted the following the fo!lowing added:
1. Alternative development on Lots q~ 5 & 6 due to deep
slopes.
2. Boi]erplate conditions on tree cutting.
3. Bond money for trees
4. Cutting shade trees on public way - citing Chapter 87
Section 3.
Island in cul-de-sac. Bill Hmurciak, DPW, against
islands, plowing efficiency, and safety issues·
Portion of land open for 3 years (1 lot) for a park
site, citing Chapter Al. Suggested Lot 11.
Waterline easement to Turtle Lane needed signing prior
to the Board taking action.
Phase development scheOuling.
Roadway reduced to 22~ not 26' - minor road. (To be
kept at 26')
MOTION: By Erich Nitzsche to grant a waiver on the length of the
cul-de-sac.
SECOND: John Simons for purposes of discussion.
John Simons said that he is not infavor of granting the waiver. Erich
Nitzsche cited t~at alt members have to vote the same way in order for
the motion to pass, either all for or all against, otherwise the
applicant can go to the Town Clerk and file the plans. Phil
Christiansen stated that all concerns of the Planning Board were
addressed. After a lengthy discussion the following items to be added
to decision:
length of cul-de-sac to 500~
road lay-out needs improvement to lessen the cut in
the hill
reconfiguring of Lots 4, 5, and 6.
Phill Christiansen spoke to the Board saying that they could not vote on
the plans before them by changing the length of the cul-de-sac. The
drainage calculations would not be the same. Erich Nizsche agreed. Mr.
Christ]anser felt that the Rule and Regulations were followed by the
plans before them.
Scott Stocking, Town Planner, reirriated the conditions John Simons
wanted included:
cul-de-sac length ~o 500' due to topography
standard language for tree cutting and bond money for
street trees, Chapter 89, Section 3, shade trees in
right----of-way.
Lot 11 as a possible park site per Chapter
Water easement from Turtle Lane to this subdivision be
supplied prior to signing by the Planning Board.
Phase develooment plan for the subdivision.
All other conditions John Simons wanted added were redundant due to the
reduced length of the cul-de-rsac.
VOTE:
Erich Nitzsche infavor
John Simons nay
George Perna nay
MOTION: By Erich Nitzsche to reconsider the motion to grant the waiver
of the length of the cul-de-sac.
NO SECOND
MOTION: By Erich Nitzsche to ~isapprove the subdivision
SECOND: John Simons
George Perna questioned if all the reasons for disapproval had to be
written. Erich Nitzsche stated that as many as possible. George then
asked the Town Planner to change the wording in the approval to read
disapproval. The Town Planner stated that he did not have the authority
to change the wording in the conditions during a vote and that the Board
would have to teii him what wording they wanted. It is the Board
decision, not the Town Planner's. Scott Stocking stated that if the
Board wants to disapprove the subdivision they must come up with
conditions in which to deny it and make them explicit in the meeting in
which they vote and not just direct the planner to write some up.
John Simons stated that he wou!d stay and write the disapproval. Scott
Stocking stated that any conditions for disapproval would have to be
stated at a public hearing and read into the record.
MOTION: By Erich Nitzsche to table the decision on Long Pasture for the
time being and discuss the School Site since the School Building
Committee was present.
SECOND: John Simons
VOTE: Unanimous of those present.
Discussion
School Site - Town ~arm
Mr. William Brusch, chairman of the School Building Committee were
present and spoke to the Board. Mr B?usch cited all the Town Board and
Departments the committee has been before as well as those they will be
going before. The committee was asking for an opinion on the planning
prospective only of the site cf Town Farm's two possible parcels. The
School Building Committee will be presenting their proposal to the
Annual Town Meeting in May. Mr. Kevin Shaheen was also present and
spoke to the Board describing the two parcels and stating that town
sewer and water were perferred. Required are two means of egress in
case of an emergency and one access is not possible. Because of the
developments in Town it takes approximately 45 to 55 minutes to bus
students to school at the Dresent time. This effect about one third of
the Town. Fifteen ~tcres are required for building a school. Parcel A
is a cleared parcel. Parcel B is forest. Dale Street is the most
likely place for two accesses. George Perna stated that the growth of
the Town was directed in the area of Route llq and wanted to know why
they selected the Town Farm location. Mr Shaheen stated that there were
six possible areas in the Town to accomodiate a school. Some of the
owners of these parcels did not want to ~ell. Mr. Brusch stated that
Conservation Commission did not favor the Town Farm for the site.
Of the two parcels, John Simons felt that Parcel'B was not accessabte
and that Parcel A was the better of the two parcels. George Perna and
Erich Nitzsche both felt that what ever parcel was chosen, that the
balance of the Town Farm would be accessible. Erich Nitzsche preferred
Parcel A. George Perna agreed citing that the road would be straight if
Parcel A was chosen. Mr. Shaheen stated that there would be 24 class
rooms enclosed, not open space, for approximately 550 students, two
class rooms bigger than the Franklin School. The concensus of the Board
if given the option of choosing a site, the Town Farm would not be the
choice, but given the two choices of the parcels, Parcel A would be the
better site.
MOTION: By John Simons to recess until 12 a.m.
SECOND: Erich Nitzsche
VOTE: Unanimous of those present.
The Planning Board recessed at 11:10 p.m.
The Planning Board reconveined at 12:20 a.m.
Vice-Chairman, George Perna reconveined the Planning Board Meeting at
12:20 a.m.
Decision
Lonq Pasture
George Perna stated that during the recess he discussed the concerns
that he had with the engineer. The extensive water on the property was
his major concern and he felt that the Board should address the issue.
The hydrologic connection with the ponds was made clearer by the
engineer. The applicant stated that there would be a pipe above grade,
not disturbing below grade and that he would change that for the entire
length of the driveway. Lot ~11 would be retained for three years with
no construction on it or cutting other' than that which is necessary~ for
the roadway. George Perna asked the Board members to reconside)-'~the
disapproval. ~
MOTION: By Erich Nitzsche to grant the waiver on the tengtO'o~th~
cul-de-sac.
SECOND: John Simons for purposes of discussion
VOTE: Erich Nitzsche voted infavor
John Simons voted nay
George Perna voted infavor
George Perna stated that the conditions that were read earlier with the
addition of the following, which Scott Stocking, Town Planner, read into
the record which are:
Lot 11 sh~ll not be built on for a period of three (3)
years upon the application of the binder coat to the
roadway. The Board further specifies that after the
three (3) year period contained in this condition;
should Lot 11 not perform as specified in the drainage
calculations and related site improvements as
submitted with ti~is application, the owner shall not
place a structure on Lot 11.
On Condition ~3 add - To ensure no storm run-off flows
onto Forest Street from the subdivision and further
the ditches will be constructed so as to flow into the
drainage easements on both sides.
Lot ~8 driveway - a detailed drainage section shall be
submitted for the driveway Lot 8 which shall be
designed to allow water to flow from Lot 9 into the
drainage easements contained in Lots ? and 8, prior to
,-elease of Lot 8. Covenant goes with Lot 8. Prior to
the release of Lot 8 the developer will provide sample
oeed to the Planning Board to ensure that future home
owner of Lot ~ must maintain the driveway in the same
way, shape, manner and same construction.
MOTION: Erich Nitzsche to approve the Subdivision Long Pasture for the
conditions in the draft approval and as amended.
SECOND: John Simons
VOTE: Unanimous of those present.
George Perna voted infavor
John Simons voted in the affirmative only to make it a unanimous
vote.
Minutes - March 2,_1988
MOTION: By Erich Nitzsche to approve the minutes
SECOND: John Simons
VOTE: Unanimous of those present
MOTION: By Erich Nitzsche to adjourn
SECOND: John Simons
VOTE: Unanimous of those present
adjourned at lP:55 p.m.
eorge na,
a-net L. Eaton, Secretary