HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988-08-04The North Andover Planning Board held a regular meeting on Thursday
evening, August 4, 1988 in the Town Hall Selectmen's Meeting Room. The
meeting was called to order at 755§ p.m. by the Vice-Chairman, George
Perna. Also present were John Simons, Clerk; Erich Nitzsche and Michael
Leafy. Paul Nedstrom, Chairman was absent.
Public Hearings
Lot 3A Bayfield Drive - Site Plan Review
John Simons read the legal notice to open the public hearing. A letter
was received and read from D.P.W.
Gerry Fortin, Peter Richardson, of Richard F. Kaminski ~ Associates; Jim
Bourgeois, Channel Building and Lawrence Ardito.
Gerry Fortin presented the Board with the followings
Proposed is 2 story office building
Construction of Phase I, 8,100 sq.ft., first story.
Phase II would be the second story, 17.100 sq.ft.
The Technical Review Committee had an issue with the fire lane. The
issue has been addressed. There will be no increase of run-off. There
will be a 12 inch culvert going into a 30 inch drain on Bayfield Drive.
1.66 acres contributing to the drain, 3,055 sq.ft, to be filled.
Conservation had concerns with the filling extensively in the fire lane.
Erich Nitzsche questioned the percentage of pavement. Gerry Fortin
showed Erich on the master plan. ~Erich wanted the exact percentage on
this particular parcel. Gerry Fortin stated that he would supply that
information.
Gerry Fortin stated that there are plans to screen Route 125 with a 50'
buffer. Jim Bourgeois stated that the Conservation Commission was very
sensitive to the buffer issue.
George Perna question the height of the building. Gerry Fortin stated
that the height of the building would be 30 ft.
Scott Stocking asked Gerry if there was a reason why the the footprint
of the building was 90'x90'. Jim Bourgeois answered stating it was the
owners chose and that it could subdivided economically.
George Perna question what the building would be used for and Lawrence
Ardito answered for C.P.A. office.
Lawrence Ardito spoke on the lights at Willow Street and the fact that
he was sensative to the situation. Erich Nitzsche said that it would be
put in the decision as a condition.
George Perna questioned the lighting on the building. Peter Richardson
said that the lighting on the building WoUld'be shoe' box t~pe,
asked about a sign on the building. Lawrence Ardito said that the sign
would be of chrome letters with indirect lighting.
The Board would like to see what exactly the owner wants as a sign.
John Simons questioned the landscaping. Gerry Fortin stated that a
complete landscaping plan was submitted. John Simons questioned if it
was in compliance with the screening bylaw. Gerry answered, yes.
MOTION: By John Simons to continue the public hearing until the first
meeting in September.
SECOND~ Erich Nitzsche
VOTE~ Unanimous of those present
Hickory Hill - Special Permit - PRD
John Simons read letters from the D.P.W., Town Planner, Scott Stocking's
letter to Town Counsel; and a letter from the Conservation Commission.
A1 Shaboo, Design Engineering, spoke stating the following,
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2Oft. easement - Barker Street
2 less units(56 units)
2 detention areas
looped watermain eventually connecting to Old Farm Road
A1 Shaboo wants to use PVC piping rather than concrete.
Erich Nitzsche cited 10 years down the road and residents wanting the
road a public way and not being up to D.P.W. standards.
John Simons had an issue with the watermain. Bill Hmurciak, D.P.W.
would like to run the watermain through Town property and cannot
understand why not.
Jack Lindon, Conservation Commission, stated that any use of the land
other than conservation has to be voted for by the State Legislature.
He did not feel it was a dead issue with COnservation, they were
responding thinking it was a sewer, not a watermain.
A1 Shaboo stated that the houses will be colonial type and all garages
are under, not attached.
Attorney Peter Caurso, representing Mr. Barker was present and spoke on
legal issues citing the easements and that public access would mean
anyone in the State could have public access. A1 Shaboo cited liability
issues to the owner if public access.
John Simons wanted adequate screening to adjacent property. George
Perna questioned the farming ability with the tenants. Attorney Caruso
stated that only Mr. Barker would be farming.
George Barker expressed concern with the length of time for approving a
Planned Residential Development.
Attorney Caruso wanted the Board to approve subject to Town Counsel's
reviewing the documents.
MOTION: By John Simons to close the public hearing and take the matter
under advisement and direct the Town Planner to send a letter to
Town Counsel and draft a decision for August 18, 1988.
SECOND: Erich Nltzsche
Michael Leary did not feel comfortable closing the public hearing.
Scott Stocking stated that he was not comfortable drafting a decision by
August 18, 1988. John Simons stated that he would help draft the
decision.
VOTE,
NOTE,
Three in favor - John Simons, Erich Nitzsche and George Perna
Opposed - Michael Leary
George Barker strongly insisted that the Board close the public,
for that reason the Board voted to do so.
Woodchuck Grove - PRD
John Simons read a letter from the Conservation Commission.
Scott Stocking stated that a letter has been sent to the Department of
Environmental Management stating that the Town is reviewing this
proposal and that it currently calls for a land dedication of
approximately 5 acres to the State Forest and that they have a process
involved to get it done and they are to get in touch with us on that
process.
A1 Shaboo, Design Engineering, presented the Board with revised plans
for the development. Both sides of the road will be clustered and the
road has been shorten by approximately 160 feet. Five areas of land to
be dedicated to the State Forest.
John Willis stated that the detention area will be reshaped.
Scott Stocking asked A1Shaboo the difference between the July 15 plan
and the August 2 plan. A1Shaboo replied that there were changes in the
property description and the way the property lines went. The covenant
of the land was not shown.
John Willis stated that in the covenant there will be language in it
that access will be allowed to the retention area for the drainage.
Erich Nitzsche questioned if the engineer was satisfied with the 100
year storm event calculations. A1Shaboo said, yes.
John Willis asked for a waiver on the grades and the length of the
cul-de-sac.
John Simons questioned why the road was not going down to the detention
area. John Willis answered that Mr Grady owns the house and it would be
interferring with his home. A1Shaboo further commented that if the
road was redesigned to loop near the Grady's home it would increase the
length of the roadway.
Erich Nitzsche stated that there was a real problem with the mitigation
of run-off, he said that with an 8% slope it would flood across the
street like a water way.
Scott Stocking asked what the total run at 8% would be. A1Shaboo said
about 300 feet.
Bill Hmurclak said that D.P.W. would accept the 8% slope with the length
as minimal as possible.
A1Shaboo stated that part of the project was to sewer Salem Street down
as far as the St. Cyr Farm.
Erich Nitzsche wanted to see more catch basins or curve inlets.
John Willis said he would like to get an idea that except for the catch
basins and design parameters that the location of the road is okay, the
grades and the cul-de-sac.
Scott Stocking asked what the grades of the driveway were. A1Shaboo
stated that they were 15%. Scott continued and asked if the driveways
could be designed so that it would be a straight shot rather than a
tight right angle, perhaps running them in the opposite direction. A1
Shaboo said he was willing to sit down with the Scott and go over the
design of the driveways.
George Perna summarized by saying that the Board had a problem with the
water run-off; a problem with the turning into the driveways and the
very large slopes. John Simons further commented on the use of the
land. He felt that more work was needed.
MOTION~ By John Simons to continue the public hearing until September
10th and direct the planner to collect information from Town
Counsel regarding whether a definitive subdivision also has to
be filed.
SECOND: Michael Leary
VOTE~ Unanimous of those present.
Frances & Florence Estates - Definitive Modification
John Simons read letters from the Town Planner to Bill Hmurciak of
D.P.W., and one from the Board of Health.
Attorney William Shack, attorney for the applicants, was present, as
well as Robert Masse, an engineer.
Scott Stocking refreshed the Board memory on the issues that were before
them. The issues are:
septic system in that the Board has to amend the
existing decision to allow the developer, if the Board
sees fit, to continue to installing septic systems in
the interim, for the existing lots of record.
2. figure out how the sewer system will tie into the
existing lift station in the Conventry Estates and run
through this development and also how it will tie into
the Abbott Village Subdivision.
Scott Stocking said that the Town has no assurance that it will tie into
Town sewer.
John Simons questioned the approval in that it was presumed that the
connection of the sewer would be with Abbott Village.
Bill Hmuricak, D.P.W., stated that it was approved originally with a
pumping station that was never designed or even conceived.
William Shack stated that the sewer lines are in the North Cross part of
the subdivision with bond money to ensure the completion. In the South
Cross portion of the subdivision, there is nothing done but the
developer is willing to complete the underground sewer lines as
originally required by the subdivision approval.
Veronica Mandry, an abutter, spoke to the Board regarding the sewer and
no septic systems. Her property abuts the development and there is
excess water flowing on her property.
George Perna said he had a problem in that the subdivision was approved
with sewer, now going to septic systems. Mr. Masse said that with
respect to the size of the development, would be be costly to connect
the sewer. Joseph Levis stated that he had spoken to Ben Osgood
regarding the sewer. George Perna expressed concerns about granting
septic system and slowing down the connection of the sewer. The
developer stated that he is willing to connect to the sewer, put in the
form of a covenant.
Veronica Mandr¥ gave the Board a letter from the Conservation
Commission, dated March 24, 1986. John Simons read the letter to the
Planning Board, also a letter from Karen Nelson, Director of Planning &
Community Development.
Following a lengthy discussion, a motion was made by John Simons to
continue the public hearing until the first meeting in September and get
feed back from the Conservation Commission and the Board of Health and
get an extension as required. The motion was seconded by Erich
Nitzsche. The Board voted unanimous.
Lot F Flaqship Drive
John Simons read a letter that was received from the D.P.W.
Peter Richardson showed the Board members the changes that were made
from their comments from the previous public hearing.
John Simons questioned if the screening was complying with Section 8.4
of the Zoning Bylaw. Erich Nitzsche spoke on the easement through the
property and the water main stopping at the top of the hill.
MOTION: By Erich Nitzsche to close the public hearing and direct the
Town Planner to draft a decision.
SECOND: Michael Leary
VOTE: Unanimous of those present.
Discussion/Decisions
North Andover Business Park - Preliminary Plan
Scott Stocking, Town Planner, gave a brief description of the proposed,
connection of Willow Street to Flagship Drive. Jim Bourgeois, Channel
Building, was present.
Jack Linden, Conservation Commission, spoke on the Conservation's
concensus made at their meeting held the previous night, which was to
have a bridge over the second crossing of the wetlands, eliminating
wetland filling (keeping it under 5,000 sq.ft).
Jack Linden wanted legal advise on the proposed as a limited project.
George Perna questioned if is was a limited project.
Jack Linden felt that it was headed in the right direction.
MOTION~ By Erich Nitzsche to approve the preliminary plan for the
connection subject to the Rules and Regulations for a definitive
plan to be followed.
Bill Mmurciak, D.P.W. stated the D.P.W. would not accept a bridge. They
do not have the ability to take care of a bridge.
SECOND: Michael Leary
VOTE: Three in favor~ Erich Nitzsche, Michael Leary and George Perna.
Opposed: John Simons
Approval Not Required Form A Plans
Coventry Estates - Land Court Plan
Two notes have to be placed on the plans:
Lots are part of a subdivision approved with'~'da'te 6f
approval. ~ ~ .
The release of the lots and the 'con~%~ction ~f~the
ways are governed by a covenant, with date.
Plus a note certified by a land surveyor that the lot lines and roadways
on these plans are the same as shown on the Definitive Subdivision Plan
approved by the Planning Board (with date).
MOTION: By John Simons to approve subject to the notations being placed
on the plans.
SECOND: Erich Nitzsche
VOTE: Unanimous
Kara Drive - Lot line Adjustment
MOTION: By John Simons to approve the Form A Plan
SECOND: George Perna
VOTEs Unanimous
Forest Street - Creating One Lot
MOTION, By John Simons to approve the Form A Plan
SECOND~ Michael Lear¥
VOTEs Unanimous
Decisions/Discussions
Chestnut Street - Common Driveway
The applicant is requesting an extension on the Special permit for
Common Driveways.
MOTION: By John Simons to accept an extension until September 13, 1988
SECOND: Erich Nitzsche
VOTE= Unanimous
Bonds
Pines Subdivision
MOTION: By John Simons to release $26,400.
SECOND, Michael Leary
VOTE= Unanimous
French Farm
MOTION: By Michael Leary to release $45,883 in accordance with the
receommendation of Bill Hmurciak, D.P.W.
SECONDs John Simons
VOTE: Unanimous
Bruin Hill Farm - Sign Plans
The Planning Board signed the plans for Bruin Hill Farm.
MOTION: By Michael Lear¥ to adjourn the meeting.
SECOND: John Simons
VOTE: Unanimous
T~g Board a~urned at 12:37 p.m.
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net L. Eaton, Secretary