HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-02-18 Board of Health Minutes BOARD OF HEALTH
MINUTES
FEBRUARY 18, 1993
Dr. MacMillan called the meeting to order at 7: 10 p.m.
Ms. Nelson mentioned to the Board that the Fire Department
informed her about 5: 30 p.m. that an unoccupied home at 151
Hillside Road has a potential heating oil spill in the basement
(approximately thirty (30) gallons) . The Fire Department wants
the Board of Health to follow-up on this.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Francis P. MacMillan, M.D. , Chairman, John S. Rizza, D.M.D. ,
Gayton Osgood, Sandy Starr, Health Agent, Allison C. Conboy,
Health Administrator and Karen Nelson, Director, Planning &
Community Development.
78 EAST WATER STREET UPDATE:
Dr. MacMillan mentioned that he was not at the emergency meeting
of 2/4/93 and was wondering what is happening now. Mrs. Starr
stated that she spoke with Barbara Folley who is in the office of
Attorney Vincent Manzi and friends with John Bain. Ms. Folley
asked if she could go in and clear out the trash and rubbish and
to do as much as they could and if further cleaning is necessary
they will hire professional cleaners. The Board agreed that this
would be acceptable. Mrs. Starr stated that Ms. Folley mentioned
that Mr. Bain is in rehabilitation and is receiving help.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - 1/21/93:
On a motion by Dr. Rizza, seconded by Dr. MacMillan, the Board
voted unanimously to approve the minutes of 1/21/93 as written.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - 2/4/93:
On a motion by Dr. Rizza, seconded by Dr. MacMillan, the Board
voted unanimously to approve the minutes of 2/4/93 as written.
7:00 P.M. - 30 BRUIN HILL ROAD - REQUEST FOR VARIANCE - TITLE V
SETBACKS:
Mr. Dean Koulouris, Owner was present. Ms. Starr stated that Mr.
Koulouris is requesting a variance to Title V Setbacks 310 CMR
(7) (distances of garage/slabb foundation to leach field - five
(5) feet) . A brief discussion ensued and the Board voted as
follows:
On a motion by Dr. Rizza, seconded by Dr. MacMillan, the Board
voted unanimously to grant a variance from the Title V Setbacks
(310 CMR 15.03 (7) (distances of garage/slab foundation to leach
field - five (5) feet) .
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7:30 P.M. - DISCUSSION - TONY BRUNETTA - FOOD HANDLERS COURSE-
LAWRENCE VOCATIONAL SCHOOL:
Tony Brunetta was present and stated that he is associated with
the City of Lawrence Adult Vocational School and he is the
Program Coordinator. He stated that for the past two years he
has been working for the school. Approximately one year ago, Mr.
Brunetta decided to put a program together because of the
interest and the need for additional training. Mr. Brunetta
contacted representative from the Boards of Health in the Greater
Lawrence area. He stated that he met with these individuals and
also with Ms. Conboy at which she encouraged additional training.
Mr. Brunetta stated that with this encouragement and the
encouragement from other Boards of Health he continued to put his
program together. Mr. Brunetta stated that the program has been
adjusted to include Boards' of Health concerns.
At the present time, with the exception of Haverhill, North
Andover is the only community that has some type of mandated
sanitation. Mr. Brunetta was inquiring as to what that mandate
is. Mr. Brunetta wants to be aware of what North Andover' s
mandates are so that he can adjust his program to meet these
needs.
Dr. MacMillan mentioned that Ms. Conboy should address this
because she found a number of deficiencies in the program. Ms.
Conboy stated that she made a brief listing which is three pages
long some of which she mentioned at the last meeting. Mr.
Brunetta stated that if there are deficiencies in the program he
wants to address them so he can meet the standards of the
community. Mr. Brunetta stated that there must be something in
the Town Ordinances that spell out what the Town' s requirements
are.
Dr. Rizza stated that the reason he became involved with this
situation is because at the last meeting the Board agreed if they
did not like his course that we would send a letter stating why
the Board did not like the course and what he needed to do. Dr.
Rizza stated that he has known Mr. Brunetta a number of years and
knows his credibility in the food establishment business. Dr.
Rizza stated that he thought Mr. Brunetta could be of help to the
North Andover area because of our need for courses in the area.
Dr. Rizza requested that Mr. Brunetta be placed on the agenda for
tonight in order to bring everything out in the open.
Furthermore, if the Board follows certain rules and regulations
then the Board should inform Mr. Brunetta exactly what those
rules and regulations are so he can tailor his course to meet the
needs of the Town and be an asset to the food handlers in this
area stated Dr. Rizza.
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Ms. Conboy stated that the regulation that requires food
establishments to have a food handlers certificate does not state
that it needs to be a NIFFY certification. Ms. Conboy stated
that she pointed that out to the Board at that time.
Mr. Brunetta stated that he does not know what the Town ordinance
states. "The Town Ordinance states that all food establishments
must be certified in food handling and approved by the Board, "
stated Ms. Conboy. Mr. Brunetta asked what the criteria for a
food handlers course is? Ms. Conboy stated that it does not
spell out the criteria. Mr. Brunetta stated that if there are no
guidelines - what level is his training based on?
Dr. MacMillan stated that in the letter of January 25th, Ms.
Conboy stated that Mr. Brunetta's course materials omitted a
number of sanitation and food handlers topics which are important
components of an effective sanitation course. Ms. Conboy stated
that she has an outline for Mr. Brunetta.
Mr. Brunetta wants to know what steps need to be taken to bring
him into compliance.
Dr. MacMillan asked if Mr. Brunetta would object to the Board
monitoring one of his courses. Mr. Brunetta responded, "no" , he
would not object.
The Board suggested that Mr. Brunetta incorporate into his food
handlers course the topics and issues for food handlers course as
outlined by Ms. Conboy and bring back the amended course and if
it fits these criteria, approval will be granted to teach the
course.
VAL'S DELI - 701 SALEM STREET:
Ms. Starr informed the Board that Mr. Valentino from Val ' s Deli
approached her and asked her if tables could come back and Mrs.
Starr told him that the Board should deal with this. At this
point during the meeting Mr. Osgood joined the Board.
Dr. Rizza recalls that the Board took table privileges away from
Mr. Valentino but did not remember why and neither did Mr.
Osgood. Ms. Conboy questioned if a permit from the Selectmen is
needed. Mr. Osgood said he did not think so. Ms. Conboy stated
that Mr. Valentino was never allowed to put seating in by either
the Selectmen or Building. Mr. Osgood stated that this is really
not a restaurant - he' s just letting people sit down - he's not
serving them and there are no waitresses involved, etc. The
Health Secretary mentioned that she believes that either the
Selectmen or Building has to approve she was not quite sure which
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one. Ms. Conboy stated that the number of seats is indicated on
a common victualler's license. Dr. MacMillan suggested to have
Mrs. Starr check with the Selectmen' s Office or Building
Department but to note that the Board of Health has no
objections.
78 EAST WATER STREET:
At this point, Dr. MacMillan updated Mr. Osgood regarding East
Water Street because Mr. Osgood joined the meeting late and did
not get the update earlier in the meeting.
1993 FEE SCHEDULE CHANGES:
Dr. MacMillan stated that aside from gaining increased revenue
for the Town why are we going up on these fees? Ms. Conboy
stated that she did a survey of surrounding communities and what
their averages where and we are low.
Dumpster Permits:
A general discussion ensued in reference to the dumpster
permitting process, time involved, and the fee charged. The
Board agreed that there was a lot of unnecessary work and made
the following motion:
On a motion by Mr. Osgood, seconded by Dr. Rizza, the Board voted
unanimously to repeal l - dumpster regulation effective January 1,
1994.
Burial Permits:
At the present time, the burial permit fee of $25. 00 is the
highest in the area and a lot of Funeral Directors are
complaining of the high rate. The average rate in the area
communities is $5 - $10 dollars.
The Board Members agreed to decrease the burial fee to $10.00.
Mobil Truck-
The Board agreed that the Mobil Truck fee stay the same.
Food Service Reinspection Fee:
Ms. Conboy stated that this would be a charge for an unnecessary
reinspection. She stated that for the regular reinspection for
violations there is no charge. Dr. MacMillan stated that a
graduated fee would be reasonable. For instance, the first
reinspection would be $25. 00 and the second reinspection $50. 00.
If it is necessary to keep coming back then the charge will be
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more. The routine inspection and reinspection are no charge, but
if they have not complied or have called to ask for additional
time and a reoccuring violation is causing the inspector to come
back an additional time an additional fee should be charged. Dr.
MacMillan stated that if the first two inspections are free then
the charge should be $50. 00 for the third one.
The Board Members agreed to increase the Food Service re-
inspection fee to $50.00.
Recreational Fee:
Mr. Osgood stated that this is a long, hard inspection. Ms.
Conboy stated that she has to sit and go through all the files
and inspect the entire camp.
The Board Members agreed to increase the Recreational Camp Permit
to $100.00.
Well Permit Fee:
The Board Members agreed to leave the well permit at $25.00.
Animal Permit Fee:
At the present time, the fee for all animals is $25. 00. Ms.
Conboy mentioned that the fee is for three or more animals not
including domestic animals. Ms. Conboy noted that if you have
three or if you have twenty, the fee is $25. 00. Mr. Osgood
stated that what will happen when, for instance, George Barker
and he has 80 cows - are we going to charge him $80. 00 - this
will be tough on a person who is farming for a living. The fee
could go from $25. 00 to $800. 00 stated Mr. Osgood.
The Board Members agreed to leave the animal permit at $25.00.
Mrs. Nelson suggested sending a memo to Mr. Gordon in reference
to the increases. Ms. Conboy suggested reprinting the fee
schedule changes with the Board' s recommendation and pass it in
to Mr. Gordon and then vote on it formally at the next meeting.
8 : 00 P.M. BERRY STREET - REQUEST FOR VARIANCE TO LOCAL
REGULATIONS•
Phil Christiansen, Engineer, was present on behalf of Kevin
Stack. Mr. Christiansen wanted to meet with the Board before
starting work for Mr. Stack because he believes variances are
required from North Andover Regulations. Mr. Christiansen stated
that Mr. Stack does not have a lot of money and he does not want
to go ahead and do perc tests, designs, and file with
Conservation if a variance is not granted. Mrs. Starr asked Mr.
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Christiansen if the wetland' s line changed much from the old
plan. Mr. Christiansen said he had no idea. He stated that it
is about 100 ' back from the road way. Mrs. Starr noted that Mr.
Graf had some concern in the past as is noted in letters in the
file.
Mr. Osgood stated that even if the Board of Health grants this
variance, you need to go before Conservation. Mr. Christiansen
stated that if the Board of Health grants a variance to the 100 '
setback he believes it goes a long way in getting Conservation's
approval .
Mrs. Starr stated that a well has to placed on this lot. Mr.
Christiansen agreed and stated that this is another issue - a
well might have to be placed back in the wetlands. Mrs. Starr
stated that there is another well in the area which impacts that
as well.
Dr. MacMillan stated that the letter from Mr. Graf states that
the percolation rate is very, very slow and asked Mr.
Christiansen how he would get around this. Mr. Christiansen
stated that it is a matter of being able to design a system for
it - it might be a two bedroom home. "There might be a lot of
variances along the way with variances from Title V as well, "
stated Mr. Christiansen. Mr. Christiansen stated that the real
killer is the 100 ' setback from wetlands because he can not get
100 ' and be on the lot, there may be variance from slope
requirements, he may have to use clay barriers - it may have to
vary other health regulations i.e. minimum size systems,
separations between trenches. Mrs. Starr mentioned that he may
have to get Title V variances too particularly the breakout as
noted previously. Mr. Christiansen stated that he can always get
Title V variances.
Mr. Osgood stated that he is not sure if a 50 ' variance has ever
been granted by the Board of Health. Mr. Christiansen stated
that he may be able to get more than 50 ' by pushing it out to the
street more. Mr. Osgood stated that he was not sure if this lot
is buildable and Mr. Christiansen agreed.
Dr. MacMillan suggested that a temporary variance be granted in
order to see what Mr. Christiansen can design. Mrs. Starr
reiterated that the Board agreed to grant a temporary variance
and when the Board gets a passing perc test they would consider
looking at a plan and consider a variance to the 100 ' setback.
The Board agreed.
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On a motion by Mr. Osgood, seconded by Dr. Rizza, the Board voted
unanimously to grant a temporary variance and when the Board
receives a passing perc test, the Board would consider looking at
a plan and would consider a variance to the 501setback.
69 SOUTH BRADFORD STREET:
Phil Christiansen, Engineer, and Guy Bardacino, Owner, were
present. Mr. Christiansen stated that this system was designed
in February 1990 and approved by Mike Graf. Mrs. Starr stated
that a Notice of Intent and a Form U were signed back in 1990 by
Mr. Graf. Mr. Christiansen stated that at the present time this
system does not comply with the revised North Andover
regulations. Mr. Christiansen stated that this plan only had 6
feet between the trenches for the reserve area and the new
regulations require 4 feet between side walls which would bring
us up to 11 feet between the trenches rather than the 6 feet.
Mr. Christiansen stated that in addition to this the other
complication is having to file with the State under the variance
procedures. He stated that since this was approved, the State
has a more formal variance procedure for Title V regulations.
Mr. Christiansen stated that Chapter 111, Section 127P of the
State code states that the regulations that apply to a property
are those that were in effect at the time. Basically the
subdivision was approved and Form A was signed for a period of
three years. Additionally, it was said that if a form "A" was
filed and there was litigation, then the regulations that apply,
are the regulations that were in effect when the plans were
originally filed.
At the present time, Mr. Christiansen can not pull a permit on
this system because there is no approval by the Board of Health.
The variance to Title V are as follows:
Distance to the leaching facility to the tributary to a reservoir
is 90 feet instead of 100 feet.
Distance of a leaching facility to a subsurface drain is 20 feet
instead of 25 feet.
The breakout which is 60 instead of 150.
Mr. Osgood asked how did we approve this before? Mr.
Christiansen stated that it has always been a repair. Mrs. Starr
stated that even on a repair .there is a variance procedure that
has to go in to the State for approval.
Mr. Osgood stated that it was either a repair or tear the house
down. Mr. Christiansen stated that the owner can not sell it
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because he does not have an approved system. Mrs. Starr stated
that the notice of intent has also run out. Mrs. Starr stated
that Mr. Doucette, Conservation Administrator said he only
approve one lot and the Conservation Commission understood that
69 South Bradford would not be occupied until a sewer went down
the street. Mr. Osgood stated that this is not the case. He
stated that there were a couple of other lots that were not with
the subdivision and the Board said that the other lots could not
be developed without the sewer but it did not include this house.
Mrs. Starr stated that for a repair you do not have to have a
hearing with abutters but you still need to go through the
regular variance procedures. Mrs. Starr stated that even on a
repair, the State needs the variance specifically spelled out.
Mrs. Starr stated that she knows that Conservation would have a
big problem with this and a notice of intent has to be filed.
Mr. Christensen asked if this can be issued as a temporary permit
and Mr. Bardacino will give a guarantee as soon as the sewer is
there he will tie-in to it.
Mrs. Nelson stated that she has not commented because she would
be taking a different position because it had a different turn of
events from the Planning Board. Mr. Osgood asked her to explain.
Mrs. Nelson stated that this went through the courts and the
Planning Board decided to work with them on this proposal. Mrs.
Nelson stated that it -was a court case with the Planning Board
but this is not the case with Conservation Commission. She
stated that the Conservation Commission could take a very hard
line on this.
Mr. Osgood stated that a lot of work went into this project so
that it would not pollute the lake.
Mr. Bardaicino stated that the person that is purchasing the
property is a friend of his and he plans on going very slowly the
renovation will take about two years and he plans on tying into
the sewer.
On a motion by Mr. Osgood, seconded by Dr. Rizza, the Board voted
unanimously to grant the variances as a temporary repair subject
to a final resolution that they hook-up to Town sewer as soon as
it is available.
Waste Oil Collection:
Mrs. Pawelski, Secretary, stated that Everett Penney, the Health
Administrator from Andover, called and wanted to join in with
North Andover on their annual waste oil pick-up which is usually
scheduled from March - October. She told Mr. Penney that she
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would check with Mr. Perna, Director of DPW, and the Board
members and get back to him.
Mrs. Pawelski stated that she called Mr. Perna and he had no idea
as to what is going on and what to do. At the present time, the
DPW is collecting the waste oil every Saturday at the DPW garage.
Mrs. Pawelski informed Mr. Perna of the past procedure, i.e.
duration - March through October, collect 50 cents/gallon,
collected twice a month (second Saturday & second Wednesday)
alternating with Andover/North Andover. There will be a need for
someone from North Andover every other month. Mrs. Pawelski
stated that Mr. Perna told her that he collects money only when
they give it to him.
Mr. Osgood stated that Mr. Perna is the one that came to a Board
of Health meeting and said he wanted to do the waste oil pick-up.
Ms. Conboy stated that she thought they were no longer going to
collect money. Mrs. Pawelski stated that if money is collected
it should go into the general fund. Mr. Perna told Mrs. Pawelski
that there will be some equipment he may need, i.e. uniforms.
Ms. Conboy stated that Mr. Perna wants the Andover Board and
North Andover Board to help out year around every Saturday. Mrs.
Pawelski corrected Ms. Conboy by saying that is not what Mr.
Perna wants. He wants to know what the Board wants to do, and he
wants the Board to make the decision.
Dr. MacMillan stated that what Mr. Perna needs is some direction
from this Board as to what to do, and he suggested to continue to
go from May to October at a nominal fee and it should be directed
to the general revenue. Dr. MacMillan stated that if Mr. Perna
would like to do it on his own after October and through April he
should provide the services.
The Board Members agreed that the waste oil collection be held
from May through October at a nominal fee.
Watershed Project/Regulation:
Ms. Conboy asked the Board if anyone had a chance to read through
the proposed watershed regulation and if they have any comments.
The regulation is still in the draft draft. Mr. Leyland stated
that he would like any input or comments from the Board members.
Mr. Osgood stated that when a regulation states there is to be a
fine of $100. 00 per day for non-compliance, people are opposed to
it and they do not want hear that. "People find this
intimidating, " stated Mr. Osgood.
Mr. Leyland stated that what it comes down to is - what do we
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want to accomplish - the long term goal is to get every house in
the watershed on sewer.
Dr. MacMillan suggested deleting the $100. 00 fine and stating
that there would be a fine appropriate. The Board agreed to
delete 8 . 3 , 8 .4 & 8 .5.
Mr. Osgood stated that Title V gives us all sorts of enforcement.
Ms. Conboy stated that this regulation does not require repairing
a failed system, this is requiring the pumping of tanks every two
years.
Dr. MacMillan stated that what this regulation is stating is that
we are requiring that everyone pump their system every three
years.
Ms. Conboy stated that if the Board is serious about passing this
regulation one of the things that the Board has to look at is if
twenty or thirty people do not comply are we actually going to
enforce it and have hearings and do we have the man power to
enforce it. She stated that we can not pass this regulation and
then forget it is there - it is not worth it. Mrs. Starr agreed
with Ms. Conboy. Ms. Conboy stated that one of the things you
can do is to say the owner would be subject to an administrative
hearing with the Board of Health and possible fines but can the
Board of Health impose a fine on someone. She asked, "can we do
that"?
Dr. MacMillan suggested getting Town Counsel ' s recommendations.
Mrs. Nelson suggested that when the final draft is done we can
bring it before Mr. Gordon.
Dr. MacMillan stated that there is nothing in the State
Regulations that force any compliance, so the Board of Health
needs to state that at the complainant persons ' expense, the
Board of Health shall take any legal action necessary to enforce
this bylaw.
Averka Property Update:
Ms. Conboy stated that Simmons Environmental Services, Inc. did
the testing and at the present time we are waiting for results.
Their court hearing is scheduled for March 4th.
Mr. Osgood stated that he, Mr. Doucette, Conservation
Administrator, and Kathleen Bradley observed the testing with
Simmons Environmental Service. Mr. Doucette took pictures and
soil samples were taken and are in the Board of Health
refrigerator.
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Mr. Osgood stated that Simmons Environmental dug six holes
approximately 10 feet deep down to the original soil. Mr. Osgood
stated that if there is nothing in there that is hazardous, we're
going to leave it there.
Rabies - Dr. Atwood:
Ms. Conboy asked Dr. Rizza if he obtained the information from
Dr. Atwood that the Board requested from their last meeting. Dr.
Rizza responded "no" . Ms. Conboy stated that she will call Dr.
Atwood herself and obtain all the necessary information about the
rabies clinic.
Ms. Conboy stated that awhile ago Mrs. Northam, the Animal
Inspector requested that the Board of Health get money out of
their budget for her to receive the rabies vaccine and then she
decided against it. Ms. Conboy stated that Dr. Atwood would the
Board of Health to get money for him to receive this vaccine.
Ms. Conboy stated that there is money in the budget for this.
Ms. Conboy stated that she does not know where it was applied to
the budget but believes Dr. Atwood should receive this.
The Board Members agreed that Dr. Atwood should be immunized
against rabies and to send a note to Mr. Gordon on their
recommendation.
Lake Cochichewick Water Testing:
A lengthy discussion ensued in reference to the Lake Cochichewick
Water Testing Project and the involved duties of the Health
Administrator in this project.
ADJOURNMENT
On a motion by Mr. Osgood, seconded by Dr. Rizza, the Board voted
unanimously to adjourn at 9:45 p.m.
Clerk, Board of Health