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1979-02-26Fe~r~ 26, 1979 - MONDAY Regular Meeting The PLANNING BOARD held a regular monthly meeting on Monday evening, February 26, 1979 at 7:30 P.M. in the Fire Station Meeting Room. The following members were present and voting: William N. Salemme, Chairman; William Chepulis; and Joyce A. DiTore. 12 visitors present. PUBLIC 9F~RING: HARDTCOURT ESTATES (CAMPION HALL), JOHN WARLICK: the clerk read the legal notice. The hearing was temporarily postponed awaiting the arrival of the engineer, Mr. Gelinas. DEFINITIVE PLAN of Hardtcourt Estates hearing was tape recorded. Atty. Reg. Marden, 4 Park St., Andover representing briefly recounted background for the BOARD and audience. In order to mske this plan aesthetically pleasing and to conform with the Town, we came before the BOARD with a preliminary plan and received numerous ~uggestions such as elimination of a number of lots, location of the road, and the course which the road would take. In looking at the definitive plan in terms of the concepts discussed at the preliminary stage, they were nearly followed with some minor deviations in the over all grade of the road and the lot layout, he stated. The cul-de-sac extends to the line drawn on the preliminary leaving a large open space behind Campion Hall. Frank Gelinas proceeded telling those present %hat it would be a ~9 lot subdivision with a 1650 ft. roadway; has municipal water, 8" cement line connected to the main on Great Pond Rd. and will end at the cul-de-sac with a hydrant location; the lots conform to all the Rules & Regs. of the Town; drainage is a one loop system which starts at intersection of Bonny Lane and Great Pond Rd. and ends at turn-emound headwall; weir is across the footpath for the purpose of regulating the flow out of the sedimentation basin by virtue of the elevation across the weir base. Presented drainage plan with tabulations noted ont..the plan. There are presently numerous ~,lay pipes to the rear of Campion Hall which they intend to dig a cross ditch in two places to connect these into the drainage system. Letter from Highway Surveyor dated Feb. 26th was read. Also, letters from BPW, Con. Com. and Fire Dept. Cyr's letter of July 17, 1978 was read which was submitted at the time of the preliminary plan. Gelinas responded to the letters from the RPW and Con. Com. They seem to recommend a waste treatment plan, he said, but the developer does not feel that it should be in that particular location. He didn't feel that it could be centrally located in order to accommodate the homes and Campion Hall and the Form A's. EAch lot is in excess of one acre and in the areas where there is difficulty they are in excess of 1½ acres. Ny client is opposed to a central station because 1) it is not the way to go and 2) it is not feasible in this area. The state law is very rigid regarding how many gallons you have to have to install them. And, to concentrate the effluent from all these lots would be horren- dous in case of a m~lfunction. He continued, that there is a wetland on the site for which they will be going before the Con. Com.; the quality of water going into the Lake will be better than others in this town because of the sedimentation basin; if your leeching field is running properly nutrients will not be fed into the Lake; going to provide a buffer area from the footpath on down. In response to Cyr's letter: Gelinas stated that regarding the difference between the contours, you can't equate a geodetic survey with a transit (?) survey and that is why it is confusing. Cyr stated then that he never found out where the existing Campion Hall drainage goes and never saw the drainage plan before this time; very opposed to the cul-de-sac because there is nothing to stop him from coming in nex~ week with another subdivision backed up to this one. Gelinas answered that the BOARD has the option to turn it down in the ~uture. Chepulis voiced concern regarding lot arrangement around the turn-around - lot 8 entrance is over an easement for drainage. Gelinas agreed, is to give it some frontage and view of the Lake. Chepulis then inquired if there is committment to the BOARD regarding the balance of the parcel - Marden replied that they have no present intentions to subdivide this parcel. During Further discussion, Cyr requested that any existing drainage be tied in with the new drainage and drains picked up from the Campion Hall drainage system should also be incorporated into the full system. John Thompson, BPW, asked fer e~planation of where the house drains are, what might happen from additional flow from Campion Hall. Gelinas explained that when you dc drainage flow computations you don't incorporate leeching field flows. Thompson stated that the piping system has not been designed. Gelinas said that it has been. Then, Thompson said, we have not been given any of these and who is going to maintain this 10 years down the line? There is no provision for maintenance. This Town requires that the drainage be looped and not discharging at different points. Thcmpsen said he was talking about ~more than just street drainage. There should be a limit on tim& period during excavation because this is such an acute ~rea. Gelinas told him that at the Con. Com. they will provide an erosion control system and a schedule of constructien. Motion m~de by Mr. Chepulis that the matter of H~rdtcourt Estates definitive plan be taken under advisement. Mrs. DiTore seconded and the vote was unanimous. On Narch 5, 1979 at a regular monthly nee%lng with Salemme, Chepulis, Nonteiro and DiTore present the BOARD,u~8~motion of Nonteiro to deny the application of Hardtcourt Estates and second by DiTore voted unanimously in favor due to letter received March 5, 1979 from the Board of Health incorporating existing conditions on the potential subdivision' in accordance with Ch. 41, Sec. 81-U. Atty. Marden argued that the letter had passed the 45 day time limit in which to file recommendations. Mr. Scanlon, Bal. of Health, stated that no definitive plan had ever been received from the developer to this date. Nr. Marden contended that they did not have this authority without stating that the land is not suitable to be petted. He felt the entire letter was based on speculation, surmise, and continued committment by certain individuals in this Town that this land is not going to be developed and did not agree with their interpretation of the statute, twitcher, he said thess plans were filed in the same manner in accordance with the established practice in this Town for the last 10 years. (Secretary's note: it is in fact true that the applicant never filed a copy/set of plans with the Board of Health) Feb. 26, 1979 - cont. FOREST ESTATES (Olympic Const,) DECISION: Ikl. of Health letter was received and read. Mr, 0elinas objected to the statement regarding to perc tests on individual lots being rec/uired prior to definitive plan approval. Oelinas met with Borgesi, Cyr and Kalogianis re a master plan on Campbell Rd. Did agree with Cyr that they would put in the water up to 15~0 ft. of Campbell Rd. and other things to do with road straightening, widening, etc. ~he BPWwill cooperate as far as 1~%30 ft. is concerned but nothing more at this time. We agreed to put in wells in this subdivision. Results of the meetingwere that the BPW was not antici- pating doing any improvements on ~ater on Campbell Rd. in the near i~ture but'~possibly would help with the manpower. ~he trenching, etc. would have to be borne totally by the developer and it is economically unfeasible to put in 2200 ft. of pipe. More discussion took place regarding all of Campbell Rd, Atty. Marden stated that this subdivision has to stand on its o~n but they will be back in with another subdivision soon and will certainly be talking about this again. Motion made by Mrs. DiTore to approve the subdivision proposal incorporating all of the Highway ~t~rveyor's recommendations except re the water in accordance with letter dated Feb. 5, ~979; standard condition re submittal of covenant or bond before signing of plan~ 15' road easement shall be deeded to the ~own o~ the southerly portion of that land that fronts on Campbell Rd. since the land in q~estion is owned by%he same developer with a 30 ft. radius at the intersection of Lyons Way and Campbell Rd.~ no lot shall be built ~vonuntil a subsurface sewerage disposal system is approved by the Bd. of Health. Mr. Chepulis seconded the motion and it was a unanimous vote.