HomeMy WebLinkAbout1975-04-03Thursday - April' 3, 1975
Publio I~saring
The PLAITING BOARD held a PuBlic Hearing ca Thursday evening, April 3, ~75, at
P.M. in the Middle School Auditorium. The following members wsr~ l~esen% and
voti~ William Chepulis, Chairman; Fritz Ostherr, Vice Chairman; William N. S~I~,
Olerk~ Paul R. Lamprey and John J. ~nteiro.
~r. N~nteiro a~rived at 8 P.M. due to a prior c_~=.~ttment.
There were approximately ~5 people present.
The olerM read the legal notioe. Chat ~r~_ - Chepulis explained fha% the petitien
sul~mitted in regard to the land presently o~ned By the So~isty of Jesus (Campien
with an optien By Thomas Censtruotien. It is to re-zone the land to an Eavirc~mental
Ccatrol Dis%rio% with olu~ter dwelling. The prodecur~ for She hearing ~ill ~e as £ollo~
the presentatic~ By the petitic~sr of his sase Before the I~ARD~ the ~ will ask
questic~s of the pe$iticaer; then, anyene in the ~udienoe will Be granted the floor for
~ens, cla~Afiea~i~n, etc.
l~r. De-glass ~ww introduced himself as represent~_-_~ ~r. ~or~ Co~is.
~. Chris ~d the ~ ~ f~ ~g most coope~tive.
the ~~d, sta~ ~th the meeti~ in ~.' ~ey t~ed $o
depts. $~her for ~t, he ~id. ~s C~st~tion ~11 ~ ~i~le $o the prope~y
~ April ~, ~ ~d t~2 ~11 de, lop it ~ some ~er.
~m~tal C~I Die,riot ~ch is ~ ~erlay z~e. ~ere is c~side~Ble'l~d arid the
~e ~oh is ~Bject to d~lop~t. ~ f~ls ~he isle of'~he fi~ ~icle is ~he
The 'second a~tiole allows us to adopt a form.of cluster z~ing. ~r. O~-~ ~ed t~t
the po~im lots ~e ~eoifi~l~ ~eveloped to ascents ~2 ~i-f~ily ~its ~t~
the law. ~t is essentially ~he ~law, ~id C~, ~ th~ ~ve pres~ted it to the
T~ off N~h ~d~er ~use i$ ~ves proteoti~ to the ~er ~p~ ~d, also, it ~11
~ profi~le to the~. ~. ~h~ ~e~i~ed ~2 dwell~ ~i~e ~ ~oh po~i~ lot
f~ed a~ ~p~te~ 4 ~r ao~. ~. ~ ~ated t~t it is a ~efi$ ~o She To~
~e ~oh 1~ ~'-~ ~lled a o~d~i~. ~ a 12 ~t sche~ ~ u~ili~$i~ is ~
r~ue $o She ~.
D~ld Eeirstead, 103 01d Village Lane: ~aesticaed a discrepancy Between this and our
existing By-law, ~ec. 2.47. ~e said it appeared to him fha% the ~y the lotis now situa-
ted, it is a side lot line and not a rear lot line. Nr. Oann said this ~s dens this way
Because of the T~e.
Mr. ]~o~n, ~3~ ~sat P~nd Rd.~ Asked if they are going to ~ring the sewer up Before
building the clusters. Cann said, "1~o, not until 200 units are Built."
Mrs. Phila ~l~de~ 2~ ~ra~lf~rd ~t.: ~id she had re~d it over several times, ~ut couldn't
understand original lots, porti~ lots, ets, and asked for an explaaa%ien. ~t we are
talk~ about is taking a large parcel and bre~ug it up into small porti~ns~ a~wered
Nr. C~-~. The Envir~mental Centrol District ~s not~-~ to do with ~ur original proposal,
and the 200 ft. Buffer zene is a ~r~de-off.
Joseph Cu~-~, Gray S~.; Asked how they find ,~ing an ecOlOgy di~trio% will make the
area any sounder th~ it is now. As the property is now, said Cann, we c~_-_ go in and
develop 64. house lots with a certain number of g~llous of effluent each d~y and all of
this land around T~e ~oohichewiok is subject to this type of development. As we have
proposed, %o put in the lines from the existing system, it is a sr~oh better ida~. ~hen
they researched it, the number was somewhere around 200 unite that. Ca~piou U~ll
eottld take in septic systems. Nr. Cushing asked if this was ecologically sound and
Mr. Canu replied that a~cor~ing to their engineers it is.
~ohn Lyons, ~reat Poud Rd.~ Asked~wh~ is there an investigation going ou because there
is leakage into the Lake now if the are~ can take more septic systems? You are
one thing which commou sense sho~s is just the opposite. C~ seemed to feel that this
is not the case and said they hire professional people to haadle questious of this k~-d.
Mr. Philip L~ll said he could a~s~er the questic~ even though it is not relevant
the article in the ~t. I know, e~id Nr. L~ell, that:the Septic sys~e~ %ha% relates
to the dormitor~ and other Building is only a 2,000 gallou unit and is not sufficient to
handle the capacity it has to $~e. ~hen people are'in on retreats it is ~Ted beyond
its capacity. I believe it was 1~0 units for on-site sewer system, he s~id~ ~ut let's
not relate the existing system at ~pion I~11 to what is presently in the
Mr. Cushing said he still fails to see how it is ecologieally sounder. You are maintain-
~A-S that ~ units o~-~ support 64 septic systems, ~e have not perked 64 lots, but 'know
that it can be done, said Mr. Cann.
Mr. Eierstead inquired if he had heard correctly that Thorns Construstion will definitely
not build single family homes2 Right now, said Mr. ~-~, T o~nnot see it as a potential
for us as a good economic proposal. Mr. Chepulis noted that the 200 ft. strip along
the Lake is called a conservation are~ and only for the use of the oondo~iniu~ owners.
Mr. C~-- stated that this is specifically to remain as it is forever, but not for
increased useage of the ~_~_~_ee
Mr. Cushing asked, how are you going to protect the water, supply once these 300 dwel-
ling units are in? Mr. Cann answered with the question, how do you protect it ng~?
Mr. Cushing requested him to respond to his question and Mr. C~-- eaid~ in the condo-
minium oov~-~_~-t there will be a restriction to this effect.
Mrs. ~oan Fiorino, 288 Pleasant St.~ ~ith reference to the eetablisjb~men~ of an. Environ-
mental Control area, she asked, could this be cousidered nothing But se~aatics or
window dressing? In order to build in this area you have to file with the Envirca~ental
Protection Agency, she thought. Mr. o_~.. said the developer no longer has to file an
Envireamental Impact statement. Mrs. Fiorino then asked about the watershed laws and
Mr. C~-~ replied ~at they are ~oubling the required dimension.
Mr. B~ asked if the Thomas Ccastruotion Compan~ would ~intain and police the a~ea
of buffer and ~he answer was that it would be maintained by the oondo~itium o~ners.
]tr. Icons questioned wlmt was goin_~ to happen to ~the beautiful grove where ~y l~eople
have held outings and the layout for a 9-hole golf course. Mr. Caen stated that none
of their proposals even consider touchiag this la~d, But would have to check into the
future use.
John J. ~onte~ro, [~ - ~alem St.~ Posed questions relative to the ecological impact
on this area such as protection of the La~e.
Mr. ~ro~ asked if it would not be better to donate the 200 ft. buffer to the ?own and
Nr. Cann stated that he would have to defer that to the attorneys.
April 3, 197~ - cent.
Joseph S'~shing asked, wlmS is Thomas CoaetrucSic~ gOing to do if Shey find it is no~
economically feasible So run She sewer line up tothe area? Amd, Based upou your zoning
or~-A~oe, y,u. have proposed, whaS ie She building denSiSy along She ~ke ~nd how does
iS check out according So She number of u~its as compared So She existing zoning?
Ca~m s~id, ou~ zouing ~p-law gives uea density of 3489 p~r acre and present z~ning, is
1 per acre. Oa She issue of She sewerage, a~y approval is By special permi% of She
of Appeals which can w=~e certain requiremouts; Sherefore, even if we wens ouS of ~asiness
~oever took the land over would Be Bound So She permiS and' the zouing. According So our
ougineers, there will Be no putrification of She Lake fr~a any ou-site sewerage.
· r. Monteiro~sked:how people can ta~k by-laws when Shey don't really understand what the
whole projeoS is abc,At. Mr. C~ stated ~$ ~he ~y-law h~ be~ printed in the news-
paper, we have av~led o~selves to the ~$~speople ~d no cae has c~led ~ up.
you ve~ ~ch, ~$1emea, he s~d.
~. Ohe~lis showed ~he map of ~he ~viro~en~al O~rol DiStrict in ~e~l. Accor~ng
%0 Arty. Eorb, they c~lled it the ~ro~ental Control District" for lack of a better
n~e. It is j~s% a %i%1e ~d w~ so stated at a meeting pr~ious~. ~. Ca-- feels
it ~ves tRe To~ a distinct adv~t~e~%e~se if %he 2 ~-laws ~e adopted %he B~ of
Appeals has the power ~o isle or not isle a special pe~i~ for such. A~ To~ Nee~g,
he said, should these ~icles pass I ~t to m~e it ve~ cle~ ~ha~ this ~ no me~s
~ves us pe~ission %o ~ild ~ ~i%s. We still have $o go to the PlYing Bo~ ~d the
~ of'Appeals.
OPPOSI?I~N:
Donald EeirsSead: I rise So speak in opposition to Shis article and She whole concept
for Shis high density development. Page 21 of the Master Plan states very clearly,that
we e~e~ld nos develop this area So more than 2/3 of a dwelling.unit per acre. If the
by-law passes this developmenS would be very similar So what they propose in Sheir~state-
menS. ~ould like to submiS an alternative impact statement to theirs regarding this
property - ~) by Eatzmaa and 2) another is a site analysis of the property by M. Eatelle
and H. Robertson. This proposal would ultimately mean 7,000 to 8,000 people living in
the watershed. This is 'a poorly drafted by-law and would hate to see it added to our
By-law, He also took exception with the definition in sec. 2.3iA regarding people doing
their own cooking, e~c. He was opposed to the idea of.making a side lot line a rear los
line simply because it is around She Lake. He pointed ~out inconsistencies in sec. 2.~9A
and 7.6. He felt it a.strange provision So add something to She special permit precision
Shat is not allowed in any enabling legislation~ and iS would be bad judgment to support
Shis by-law.
Mr. Lamprey e~ade a motion to take the ma~ter under advisement and Mr. Monteiro seconded.
The vote on the motion was unanimous.
Member Lamprey made a motion to Sable Item 2 on She Agenda - sign plans and form on
M~rold Parker Estates. Mr. 0stherr seconded and the vote was unanimous.
Mr. Ostherr made a motion to take up the Beard's recommendations on $~nigh%'s hearing
on Monday, April 7, ~97~. Mr. Monteiro seconded the motion and She vote was unanimous.
Chairman
~illiam Chepulis / -
~~~~eoret a~
/ (~ilda Blackstock)